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Why neo-noir is not a subgenre keyword?

By all logical means neo-noir is a subgenre, however respective keyword is indexed as "plot-detail". 

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6 months ago

Hi @MykolaYeriomin -

We will ask our policy team about this.

Thanks!

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@Bethanny​ Great thanks!

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@MykolaYeriomin​ 

Hi Mykola, are you ok? It's nice to read something from you.

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Breumaster, lately his forum appearances have been strictly business. I'm assuming that his physical health is no worse for the wear but that he may be very busy on account of how international events may be affecting the movie industry (or related supply lines) where he lives. Based upon a small few of his remarks within the past two years, his fuse might be a little bit shorter than usual, but he seems mostly alright. To me, the past 34 months have been generally crappier (for tons of reasons) than some span of time immediately prior, but there have been some bright spots sprinkled throughout the bleakness. Anyway, I'm looking forward to what he has to express in regards to this question. I'm always glad to hear from renown forum participants who have faded away from participation for long periods of time.

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neo-noir: This is a tricky one that we discussed a bit and don't yet have a solution for. The Film Noir genre guideline states that the neo-noir keyword should only be submitted as a keyword for titles that do not fit all criteria of the Film Noir genre. We are curious to explore solutions.

from https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/keywords-now-displayed-on-the-imdb-ios-and-android-apps/63695ea1df460178b1369a05?commentId=63698e36eda63e18141c80ab&replyId=63698faf7aca5e4ceea83435

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@Peter_pbn​ I don't think this is as tricky as people tend to assume. There are already examples of subgenre keywords that don't necessarily fit under their respective genres, such as the fictional-war keyword and to some extent the contemporary-western keyword. "Fictional-war" directly contradicts the definition for the war genre in general (which demands that it be based on a "real war"), and films that qualify as "contemporary-western" are often ambiguous as to whether they can be called westerns in general. Not to mention keywords like "dark-comedy" and "satire-comedy" are frequently applicable to titles that don't necessarily qualify as comedies.

There is a bit of a paradox and nonsensicality in adding "subgenres" to films that don't bear the corresponding "genre", admittedly, but these keywords are still very useful. I don't see a problem with adding "neo-noir" as a keyword when some existing subgenre-keywords already share the same contradictions and are generally not seen as problematic.