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Why is my comment about WWII in Color: Road to Victory is deleted?

My second comment is also deleted. 19 January 2022 #220119-235106-228204

I have checked community guidelines. My comment do not include any links or urls to facebook or twitter. It does not have spoilers (how can it have spoilers in a docoumentary), it does not contain my personal opinion on historical matters and this is not a movie, it is a documentary. Someone please tell me which part of my comment is a personal opinion about historical events? IMDB should be cutting the documentaries score because of inaccuracy yet it does not even let me to point it out. My review is below:::

I will not talk about the bad narration or how WW2 starts suddenly in 1940. I could not watch all episodes because of the amount of historical inaccuracy in the first couple of minutes. My first comment was deleted by IMDB so I will give links to the fact below for any interested parties. In my personal opinion; any documentation with provable false information shall automatically have its score curtailed.

1- Documentation: 8'10" - "The architect of the plan, General Heinz Guderian..."

Reality: Plan was made by General Eric Von Manstein. He himself convinced Hitler about the plan on February 17th. Although General Heinz Guderian gave the idea to move the main thrust directly to the English channel, it was never implemented in Fall Gelb (Actual name of the plan) and panzer generals made the move by disobeying orders.
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manstein_Plan

2- Documentation: 8'15" - "... General Heinz Guderian, leads the German panzer divisions through the Ardennes.".
Reality: General Heinz Guderian was XIX Corps commander with 3 Panzer divisions. There was also Georg-Hans Reinhardt (XXXXI Corps) with 2 panzer divisions which all were a part of Paul Ludwig Ewald Kleist, the commander of Panzer Group Kleist. Also, general Erwin Rommel (7th Panzer Division), played a major role.
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_battle_for_the_Battle_of_France#German_Army_Group_A

3- Documentation: 8'30" - Guderians motto according to Raffael Scheck "Use the big guns. Don't do anything piecemeal."

Reality: General Hasso von Manteuffel who commanded the 5th Panzer Army at some point quotes General Guderian in The World At War documentary (1973) 22"20': "Strike hard and quickly. And don't disperse your forces"

4- Documentation: 12'20" - It shows as if BEF was becoming encircled alone. During later minutes it always describe as if BEF is there alone or the main force defending. In reality, they were getting encircled with a large group of French troops. French troops even had casualty rates 16 times higher than the English and protected them during the evacuation.
Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dunkirk


After this point, I do not see a reason to continue watching.

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Hi muratinci -

I can confirm that your User Review was removed as there were violations to our guidelines, specifically, there were third party links included within the content of the review and reviews should focus on the content and context of the film, not personal opinions on the real life event or subject matter which a film is based.

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@Michelle​ 

Those links are literally from wikipedia. I can also quote General Heinz Guderians' and Eric Von Mansteins' books which I had the opportunity to read. Your team should also do that. They are good books with good information.

 

1- I can remove the links and post again. Links are to show you guys that my comments are not my opinions about historical events but actual information. One of my comments points literally to the recording of General Hasso von Manteuffel saying the exact quote.

 

2- Please tell me which part of my review is my personal opinion on the real life event then I will give you more evidence that it is absolutely not my opinion or I will remove it from my comment.

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Hello Michelle,

Those links are literally from wikipedia. I can also quote General Heinz Guderians' and Eric Von Mansteins' books which I had the opportunity to read. Your team should also do that. They are good books with good information.

1- I can remove the links and post again. Links are to show you guys that my comments are not my opinions about historical events but actual information.  One of my comments points literally to the recording of General Hasso von Manteuffel saying the exact quote.

2- Please tell me which part of my review is my personal opinion on the real life event then I will give you more evidence that it is absolutely not my opinion or I will remove it from my comment.

3- You do remove personal opinion on historical events. This film evidently distort the real life events and calls itself a documentary which means that it claims to be telling the truth: Does IMDB do anything against productions like this?

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@tom_wake​ number 1 and 2 are my important topics but I will reply. The documentary also has the genre "History":

Primary focus is onreal-life events of historical significance featuring real-life characters(allowing for some artistic license); in current terms, the sort of thing that might be expected to dominate the front page of a national newspaper for at least a week; for older times, the sort of thing likely to be included in any major history book. While some characters, incidents, and dialog may be fictional, these should be relatively minor points used primarily to bridge gaps in the record.Use of actual persons in an otherwise fictional setting, or of historic events as a backdrop for a fictional story, would not qualify. If the focus is primarily on one person's life and character, rather than events of historical scope, use Biography instead.Objective.

The episode is about the war of France and the fictional part is about who made the plan of the winning side and who was the leading commander of the panzer divisions which created the so called "Sickle stroke" by defying orders. Also a sprinkle of who were taking a major part in the biggest, most famous success of the loosing side.

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Jeeze. Get a life. 

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@Masha1965​ as if you are somewhere else doing something else.