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Why are my new plot outlines and typo corrections all denied?
I've been having this problem for months. Every single one of my plot outline/summary corrections are Declined for either "Unable to verify" or "Does not meet contribution guidelines".
Both "reasons" sound silly and invalid to me. The corrections I'm making are for typos, misspellings, incorrect or missing punctuation, bad grammar, and tortured syntax or just badly written.
I do the same for Trivia and Goofs, and ALL of my corrections (more numerous than my plot corrections) are Approved.
Now lately I've begun adding plot outlines to titles that have none. All Declined for the same silly "reasons". And IMDb is BEGGING contributors to add plot outlines for titles that have none. I see the solicitations on title pages, yet when I give you a plot, you tell me off and give me insulting so-called reasons.
I've added these outlines after watching the title, and they're accurate. Sometimes I scour the net and find several other descriptions, and I sort of combine-and-sift and write a short one of my own. And there are no typos in mine either.
So what gives?
I've pointed out this problem in this forum before, but never received a solution nor answer. One administrator posted that s/he made the correction for me and labelled my post "solved", but it didn't actually get corrected at all, and to this day it still remains with its mistakes.
And the "problem" wasn't actually solved. The solution is two-folded: 1) answer the question "Why" is this happening, and 2) prevent it from happening again.
I'd be glad to post my submission numbers as examples of corrections and additions (like 220106-214149-848000), but I don't just want some administrator to approve them on a case-by-case basis. The two above questions need to be resolved first. I posted the actual text of the plot corrections or additions last time, but that only got guesses (which it turns out were invalid), and claimed solutions (also wrong).
And I don't want to resubmit them again and again, beating a broken horse, and just pile up more Declines. That seems counter-productive.
Maybe there's some sort of policy or qualification a contributor has to be approved for or go through to get plot edits approved?
Michelle
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4 years ago
Hi Mvybuf -
This is really dependent on a case-by case bases, for example, if you are submitting a new Plot Outline to a title that already has an outline, only one outline is allowed per title and locale - so rather than adding a new one our preference is to modify the existing item instead. In this instance, this could be why a Plot Outline you submitted has been declined, however, if you are submitting a new Plot Outline to a title without an existing outline and it is being rejected, I would need to review the submission to best determine why the update was declined.
If you can post some of the recently declined 18-digit submission reference numbers here I can take a look for you. Otherwise, if you prefer to go ahead and re-submit, I encourage you to do so with online evidence links to help verify the plot of the title for more context for our editors to review.
Cheers!
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Mvybuf
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4 years ago
Update: I did some tests and my plot submissions are still being declined, as before. New or rewritten or typo corrected plot outlines and summaries rejected. The so-called given "reasons" are irrelevant and inapplicable.
There is now some strange behavior on plot outline rewrite corrections. First of all, Outlines have no byline, they have a language tag. Summaries do have a byline but no language tag. When editing an existing outline, there is no byline of course, but there is a pull-down menu for a language choice. The contribution detail (the status summary) for plot outline submissions doesn't show a byline either of course... until now.
220202-004315-742000
Take a look at this:
When I edited this, there was no byline, so why does that screenshot say Anonymous for the original, and in the changed edit it's blank (a space between two grey vertical lines)? Previous contribution detail pages never had an extra grey vertical line for the place where the byline goes; this one does.
Same goes for the confirmation emails. Previous plot outlines never had a byline, just a language, labelled "Locale: en-US" where the contribution detail page says merely "English". This particular submission email has an additional line under the original ("old"), labelled "Author: Anonymous", and the changed edit ("new") has no additional author line, not even a blank.
Again, outlines are not supposed to have an author/byline; that's not supposed to show in a contribution detail page nor an email confirmation. It certainly doesn't show in the editing window, BUT it does now show in the Full Summary at the bottom! Before the language line "Locale: en-US", it has the line "Author: Anonymous". This is not supposed to be there!
But there's something even weirder: my actual edit of the text has disappeared! I changed the text completely. The proof is in the email receipt I received, where my new rewritten outline is there under "new". But in the contribution detail screenshot above, you see the edited text is identical, unchanged. It would be impossible to submit a plot outline with the text unchanged: it would give you an error.
Very odd behavior. I just now submitted the same edit again. The contribution detail shows again Anonymous for the byline (remember plot outlines don't have bylines) of the original, and a blank space (between the two grey vertical lines) for the changed edit. And my changed text does show now, but the status is pending. If it gets declined again, how much you wanna bet my changed edit will show it reverted to being the same as the original unchanged?
I wonder if this strange behavior has anything to do with why this particular title's plot outline rewrite has been repeatedly rejected for "Does not meet contribution guidelines" for the past 4 months... (see my initial thread from 4 months ago: https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/plot-spellinggrammarsyntax-corrections-repeatedly-being-rejected-for-nonsense-reasons/616d2c2e3a9f396d8e5c1ed2 ), and is this what's locked up my account from getting any other plot contributions approved?
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Mvybuf
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4 years ago
@Michelle or anyone. There is no response to my above post I wrote a month ago identifying an anomaly in Plot Outlines that may or may not have something to do with why my new outlines have been 100% rejected for the past 5 months.
I note that my recent Plot Summary and Plot Outline typo corrections are now being Approved. But my NEW Plot Outlines are still being Declined for the invalid reason "unable to verify". Plot Outlines are supposed to be subjective, and in your own words, and not cribbed from some source. So there would be no "verification" required.
This problem has not been solved. Here are some examples from the same series I mentioned as an example before:
220225-031817-390000
220225-032020-388000
220225-032228-416000
220225-032336-343000
220225-032514-185000
220225-032554-973000
220225-032921-887000
220225-033446-225000
220225-033634-955000
220225-033838-181000
220225-034009-558000
You'll notice I wrote in the comment box this:
which is exactly how you're supposed to write a Plot Outline.
I still think there's a technical reason for the Declines, likely having something to do with my account. I don't believe you when you say otherwise. Especially since your own new Plot Outline submission was declined, when you submitted it from my account.
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Mvybuf
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4 years ago
Hey can I get a response here! Administrator, somebody. This thread is over 2 months old, it has No Status, my posts are not being answered, and the problem has been going on over 5 months.
@Michelle I even posted the submission numbers you asked for. And I pointed out a potential bug before that. I'm not going to keep posting Plots for 5 months when I know there is definitely something wrong with my account, not my submissions. Somebody look at them already! 5 months unable to get a single plot outline approved?!!
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Michelle
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4 years ago
Hi MvyBuf -
My sincere apologies for the delayed reply. I just reviewed the most recent Plot Outline submissions you referenced for "The Storyteller" and can see that these updates were declined in error. I have now approved them and they should be live on the site shortly.
I have also forwarded these declined examples to the appropriate team for visibility and review of processing improvements.
Cheers!
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