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Sun, Jul 1, 2018 7:00 PM

Where do story consultants belong?

The writers guide says that "script consultants" should be listed in the "other crew" section. However, it does not mention "story consultant" and I'm not sure if they are similar job titles. I've seen it handled differently based on the show and, probably, whoever entered the credits.

The one show that I watch that lists "story consultants" seems like these should be writers credits as the "story consultants" are frequently credited with writing the show as well.

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3 y ago

I agree with you, they should both belong to the writing credits.

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3 y ago

Hi Adrian -

"Story Consultant" credits should currently be listed under the Writer section.  Cheers!

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Can we get this added to the writer's guide?

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Maybe along with the "script consultants", for the sake of consistency?

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Script consultants is specifically listed in the writer's guide as a position not to include. I have no idea what the difference between the two titles are.

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There are currently 14,565 story consultants listed on the Other Crew section.  Of course, there are also 107,764 story editors under the Other Crew section as well despite being listed in the writer's guide. Is there any plans to clean that up? I move them when I see them in stuff but that is just ad hoc changes.

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Vincent Fournols, a script consultant might be in a similar boat as a script supervisor, thus not having anything to do with the actual story creation process, not even story modification; and if I understand correctly, script supervision involves making sure that continuity is maintained across different shots as according to a kind of "script" that extends far beyond dialog, like more of an entire prompt book (complete with storyboards) than a basic script. If I had to guess, I would say that a script consultant serves to explain to producers, directors and editors how to put a script and storyboards into proper or effective execution.

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3 y ago

Hi Adrian -

I have reached out to our editors for further discussion regarding our documentation and policy surrounding Writer credits and what is acceptable to be listed under this section (such as the possible inclusion of "Script Consultant, etc.), they will review our docs and policies to ensure that we are up-to-date for these credit placements and that any changes should be documented on our guides.  As soon as I have an update I will let you know here.  Cheers!

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3 y ago

Hi all,

We've updated the writers submission guide now. In short, story coordinators/supervisors should be considered as writers, however script consultants should be submitted to the miscellaneous crew section.
  • Staff writers, story editors, story coordinators, story supervisors and story consultants also belong in the writers section.
  • Script doctors and script consultants belong in the miscellaneous crew section.
Regards,
Will

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Staff writers, story editors, story coordinators, story supervisors and story consultants also belong in the writers section.

According to https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/field/miscellaneous/job?S the following jobs with the following number of credits are currently in the misc. crew:
293 show staff writers,
2,269 staff writers,
22 Story Editor,
99,547 story editor,
1 story editor trainee,
3 story editor/global writing apprentice,
13 story editor/writer,
88 story editor; Film Ronan,
4 Story Editors,
3 story editors,
45 story idea,
1 story idea adapted from "Pashar Bari" in Bengali,
1 story idea submitted by,
3 story inspiration,
1 story inspired by,
40 Story coordinator,
2,165 story coordinator,
1 Story Creator,
6 story creator,
28 story supervision,
1 Story Supervisor,
1,451 story supervisor,
44 Story Consultant,
13,638 story consultant,
1 Story Consultant Development,
1 story consultant )(as Captain Alan Viliers,
6 story consultant/story editor,
1 story consultant: Film Ronan,
11 story consultants,
7 story consulting,
1 story consultor,
35 screenplay,
48 screenplay by,
1 Screenplay Developed by,
27 story,
2 Story By,
5 Story by,
663 story by,
1,120 stories by.
412 writer,
4 written by.

Will you move these to the writer section?
It would make the misc. crew a bit less unwieldy. It would also do justice to the people who did these jobs. And it would lead to a bit less confusion among contributors when adding credits for these people.


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Hi Marco -
I'm not certain if there is a plan to move the existing credits vs just accepting corrections as they are submitted to us.  I will reach out to the applicable editors and clarify, once I hear back I will let you know here.

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Did you ever hear back Michelle?

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There is no update as of yet.

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My above list was compiled in October 2018, below is the current situation (February 2021):

0 (was 293 in October 2018) show staff writers,
366 (2,269) staff writers,
34 (22) Story Editor,
32,885 (99,547) story editor,
14 (1) story editor trainee,
0 (3) story editor/global writing apprentice,
0 (13) story editor/writer,
0 (88) story editor; Film Ronan, (but we do now have 26 story editor; Nickelodeon)
0 (4) Story Editors,
0 (3) story editors,
8 (45) story idea,
0 (1) story idea adapted from "Pashar Bari" in Bengali,
0 (1) story idea submitted by,
1 (3) story inspiration,
0 (1) story inspired by,
0 (40) Story coordinator,
510 (2,165) story coordinator,
0 (1) Story Creator,
0 (6) story creator,
0 (28) story supervision,
9 (1) Story Supervisor,
424 (1,451) story supervisor,
4 (44) Story Consultant,
3,340 (13,638) story consultant,
0 (1) Story Consultant Development,
0 (1) story consultant )(as Captain Alan Viliers,
0 (6) story consultant/story editor,
0 (1) story consultant: Film Ronan,
0 (11) story consultants,
1 (7) story consulting,
1 (1) story consultor,
34 (35) screenplay,
11 (48) screenplay by,
0 (1) Screenplay Developed by,
124 (27) story,
10 (2) Story By,
21 (5) Story by,
130 (663) story by,
18 (1,120) stories by.
661 (412) writer,

19 (4) written by.

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2 m ago

Hi,

I have tried to add my story consultant credit to a show under series writing credits. The creator of the show has one credit for all eight episodes (1,1,1) and then written by for all eight episodes (2,1,1) then I inputted my credit (3,1,1) but the (story consultant) attribute doesn't appear and I'm above the creator in the rankings which doesn't sit right.  I deleted my credit in order not to offend the creator of the show. Is there any way to correct this, please? 

In addition, my story consultant credit appeared on my bio page but not on the show's page.

What do I need to do on the forms to make the credits appear in the following: 

Alex Yazbek (created by)

Alex Yazbek (written by)

Jake Riddell (story consultant) 

Many thanks! 

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