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Tuesday, December 5th, 2023 5:25 PM

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Werewolf by Night

"Werewolf by Night" is currently listed as a TV Movie when it's actually a TV Special (like the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, which is correctly categorized). How can it be corrected?

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OP is right, Werewolf by Night was an MCU/Disney+ TV Special.

Edit: I did a bit of research, and the definition of TV Special is extremely broad and nebulous.

And it's even more nebulous in this era of on-demand streaming.

So I don't know... both categories seem "equally correct". 

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The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special is marked as a TV Special and both are Marvel Studios Special Presentations ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Studios_Special_Presentations ), the only two in existence so far in fact, so they should be marked consistently.

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3 months ago

Hi @Noneofyourbusiness -

You need to add the keyword 'tv-special' to the title.

Cheers!

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I haven't been able to find a place to edit the title.

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@Noneofyourbusiness​ Hi! You need to click 'edit page' on the bottom of the page and find 'Keyword', follow our help guides for more.

Cheers!

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Thanks! I expected it to be near the section being edited, like in other sections.

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The problem with listing it as "TV special" at IMDb is that IMDb's programming would move all the cast credits to the Self category in the actors' pages.

Whether it is actually most appropriate called a TV special, TV movie, movie or video when it came out on a streaming service is a headache.

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Yes, I saw that when I was editing. You avoid that by also adding the "reenactment" keyword, which is how the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special has the TV Special category without the credits being listed as "Self", it has both keywords already.

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”TV special” usually refers to ”Self” credits (which of course can have some ”acting” credits also). Award shows, special concerts, comedy shows, sport events, etc.

If something is labeled as ”holiday special” (like some Star Wars/GotG related one-offs), it doesn’t make them ”television specials”. But perhaps IMDb has other ideas about this.

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When I was growing up, I would see the "CBS Special Presentation" logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4_d_6A8nE0) before various kinds of programs. They showed the logo before the Grammy Awards, but they also showed it before the "Charlie Brown" animated shows. In common parlance, all of those were considered "TV specials" because they didn't air as part of a regular series.

But the IMDb policy is different. IMDb uses "TV special" only to refer to programs that are basically nonfiction, as evidenced by the fact that they apply the "Self" flag to all TV specials. I didn't understand that a few years ago, but I do now. So, yes, the Grammy Awards are TV specials in IMDb parlance, but A Charlie Brown Christmas is a TV movie in IMDb parlance.

The problem is that I can't find it explicitly stated in any of the submission guides that IMDb uses the designation "TV special" to refer only to nonfiction programs. 

As to The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special (2022) (TV), I haven't seen it, but calling it a "TV special" on IMDb looks like an error, given that most of the cast are playing fictional characters including superheroes and space aliens. Similarly, any program where the main character is a werewolf, such as Werewolf by Night (2022) (TV), ought to be a TV movie, not a TV special.

(This issue is completely separate from whether streaming shows are supposed to be identified as television -- usually they are, but that's not a concern I'm addressing here. I'm just talking about whether a given title should be a TV movie or TV special.)