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Unit Managers

According to this:

https://film.jmcnetwork.com/film-crew-jobs-responsibilities/production-department/location-manager/unit-manager/

and other articles I've read, a unit manager actually belongs in the Location department, not in the Production Managers department, as instructed in the IMDb guide.

Current breakdown is as follows:

Location Management - 4,248

Production Management - 96,609

Additional Crew - 3,700

I'd be interested in IMDb's take on this and whether the UM's encountered in the Location section should still be transferred to the Production Manager section, or maybe the reverse.

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Hi @nickbianco -

Thanks for reporting, we will make the consultation to our policy team.

Cheers!

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This is from the production manager section:

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Production managers

  • This list records all production management jobs. That includes all variants of production manager (such as unit production manager and assistant production manager), as well as related jobs like production supervisor, unit manager, executive in charge of production, and production director.

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Hi @nickbianco -

As Adrian confirmed above, Unit Manager credits should be placed under "Production Managers".  Cheers!

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@Michelle​ So if there's 8000 of them discovered in LM & AC as the OP posts, is there a magic button at the staff's fingers to move them all to the PM section?

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@VonPunk​ 

You know there isn't and I'm a bit guilty of adding these credits to the production managers without see if they were also in the location management as that isn't a section I generally edit. There are still story editors in additional crew. Everything is basically crowd sourced.

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@adrian​ I once marked some existing 'post production producer' credits in the 'Producer' section as (uncredited), after pending these were approved but the credits were moved to the 'Editorial Department' without any deleting going on as far as my end registered, so I just wondered if they can move them at will, but maybe they actually just manually did it and it made no difference to my submission history. Guess I'm too optimistic haha.

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@VonPunk​ 

They may be able to but they generally rely on us to do this. Uncredited producers are disallowed (except for very early movies) per IMDb rules. That change should have been rejected on face value. I move "post production producer" to the editorial department and delete them from producers whenever I see them.

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We have the Producer Help saying that "This list records all forms of producer credit" which pretty clearly implies that 'post production producer' belongs with the producers, not editorial. Admittedly it can be confusing because normally a 'post production' credit would go to Editorial and so it makes sense that editors are ambivalent about where to place this credit, as evidenced by the following spread:

Editorial Dept has ~3300 credits

Producers Dept has ~4400 credits

If IMDb wants this credit in Producers it should add it to the acceptable examples "producer, executive producer, line producer, etc." for clarification, with an appropriate note in Editorial saying this credit belongs in Producers despite 'post production' appearing in the credit.

If IMDb wants this credit in Editorial it should add a note in Producers saying that this particular occupation belongs in Editorial despite its ending in the word "producer". Then it should add a note in Editorial claiming this occupation for the Editorial section.

It would follow, then, that if it is deemed the occupation belongs with the Producers, if an existing credit is subsequently found to be, in actuality, uncredited on-screen, then it should just be deleted, not moved anywhere, not even to Editorial.

Seems logical to me, but I can always miss something.

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@adrian​ That make sense to why they were moved then, I'd forgot that producer rule.

I agree they shouldn't be allowed uncredited especially since I found out the credits in question belonged to someone who was a child when the title was released and they'd pulled a cheeky addition because they worked on an criterion release that came out 30 years after the fact, so had nothing to do with the making of the show.

I'll likely go back delete them when I resume work on the title and hope they stay gone.

Not sure if the persons name appears on the DVD credit menu as sometimes they do but far as I know that not eligible for listing anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Hi @VonPunk​ -

I'm just circling back here to confirm that the credits listed under the incorrect sections (Additional Crew and Location Department) have been moved accordingly.

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@Michelle​ Thank you so much for waving your magic wand and fixing that one. :)

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@VonPunk​ - You're welcome!