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Top Boy title in a mess right now...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1830379/reference/

I added all the latest episodes (which were released on Netflix yesterday) to the title... some have been accepted, most haven't.. and the ones that have, have been misnumbered.

The problem is, this was a programme that had two seasons on Channel 4 in 2011 and 2013, then they stopped making it.

Netflix revived the series in 2019 with some all-new episodes.

But, rather than advertise their new product as "Top Boy Season Three", they made the unusual decision to retroactively rename the Channel 4 episodes on their platform to "Top Boy: Summerhouse": https://www.netflix.com/watch/70307361?trackId=254761469

That way, anyone watching Top Boy episodes would see the new Netflix ones. It makes marketing sense, but does lead to issues like this, where the eight new episodes released yesterday - Top Boy Season Four - are confused, because they're listed on Netflix as "Top Boy Season Two".

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4 years ago

This is turning into a complete disaster, with series 2 episodes (from 2013) now being merged with the latest episodes that came out yesterday.

Guess what the title of the first episode not to be added was?

"How can I fix this?"

Ironic. Let's hope it gets sorted out ASAP... I want to vote on these episodes.

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4 years ago

Looks like things are moving today, with S4 now being partially created.

Episode 2.1 still has the title of 4.1, though. (They didn't have titles back then)

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MovieCat

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4 years ago

Don't know if you've seen this, @Michelle .

The importance of it is that this is the No.1 show on Netflix UK this week, the most-watched... and people can't vote for any of the new episodes as they're either merged with S2, or can't be voted on as they don't have a release date.

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4 years ago

Hi MovieCat -

I just reviewed this series, as I understand, there were two previous seasons released in 2011 and 2013, then Netflix picked-up the series and released Season 3 in 2019 and season 4 in 2022, but they are advertising these seasons under the name "Top Boy: Summerhouse", is that correct?  So the Netflix episodes start with Season 3 and season 4 is the current season (ie. #4,1 is episode "Good Morals", #4.2 is episode "How do I fix this")?

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@Michelle​ That's 100% correct Michelle, yes.

I can understand it from their marketing point of view, as they don't want to advertise the series being back and then show viewers 8 old episodes, but it is confusing, and does lead to issues like this.

It's also a pain getting friends to watch it, as you have to go "So if you watch Top Boy, first of all it's not actually called Top Boy..."

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@Michelle ​ Oh, just to be clear, in case I've read your message incorrectly:

2011/2013 series (seasons one and two): Now called Top Boy: Summerhouse.

2019/2022 series (seasons three and four): Called Top Boy seasons one and two.

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@Michelle I see it seems to have been cleared up before I replied.

The only outstanding issue seems to be that in amongst all this, it lead to the creation of an episode 2.5: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18922146/reference/

That one doesn't exist... I guess it was intended to be 4.5 at one point.

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Michelle

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Hi @MovieCat​ -

This incorrect episode has now been removed.  If there are any further outstanding issues, let us know!

Thanks again!

4 years ago

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@Michelle​ Thanks Michelle. I thought it was good to get this one sorted quickly as there's a fairly high engagement with it, and it's nice that IMDb is seen as being functional.

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@Michelle​ Just to confirm - and we'll probably have this issue again, as seasons 5 and 6 have been confirmed to be made - here's a newspaper story on the odd name change:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/13/why-is-the-new-top-boy-season-3-now-called-top-boy-season-1-10731303/

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Michelle

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4 years ago

Hi MovieCat -

I'm just following up here to confirm that all seasons should now be displaying correctly. 

Otherwise, if there are any outstanding issues let us know!

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@Michelle​ Hi Michelle,

I see there are some errors on the page, looks like artefacts that were created after I last checked:

Season 1 - should be just four episodes, episodes 1.5-1.10 should be deleted.

Season 2 - should be just four episodes, episodes 2.5-2.8 should be deleted.

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@Michelle​ Hi Michelle, I don't know if you've seen the above message?

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Hi @MovieCat​ -

My apologies for the delayed reply, I'm following up to help resolve these older, missed threads.

The incorrect empty episode titles have now been removed from the series. 

Cheers!

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@Michelle​ Thanks Michelle - to tell the truth I'd forgotten about this one. (We'll probably have the same issue again when S5 comes out next year and Netflix market it as S3).

This doesn't seem to be a title with a fanbase that submits a lot of data - I've added a lot of cast members to this one over the last few months, and I'm sure there's still errors/missing credits.

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3 years ago

As the broadcaster itself (Netflix) and many other tv databases consider the series split into two (i.e. Top Boy: Summerhouse for the seasons in 2011 and 2013 and Top Boy for the seasons from 2019 onwards) wouldn't it make sense to have them as two different titles here on IMDb as well?

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@JSteinba​ I see someone beat me to it, but those are really retroactive titles for marketing purposes.

Top Boy on Channel 4 was Top Boy, it wasn't Top Boy: Summerhouse.

Either way, we're probably going to have the same problem in September again.

There's a mention of the issue here: https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/top-boy-season-3-coming-to-netflix-in-september-2023/#:~:text=With%20the%20release%20of%20the,to%20Netflix%20in%20September%202023

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3 years ago

The original (British) company/distributor is Channel 4. Then Netflix from S3. Point being that Netflix can't retroactively decide the series order. There was S1 and S2, not ”Summerhouse” (which is mainly just a marketing ”title”)

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MovieCat

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2 years ago

Just a heads up that I've just added 5.1-5.6 as the release dates are now confirmed. (September 7th).

That'll be nice in time for the launch then, get plenty of people voting.

Though as Netflix are advertising it as "season three", I expect the headaches to begin again...

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