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Monday, August 29th, 2022 12:46 AM

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The Dark Knight Rises (2012) listings deleted from my page

In the continuation of an ongoing problem, several listings in my filmography pertaining to The Dark Knight Rises (2012) were just deleted. To the best of my knowledge they were sound department, cast and music department. All of those were added back in 2011, when the page was monitored closely by Warner Bros. and anything insufficient would've been deleted within hours, so they've re-checked their papers, confirmed my contributions and okayed them. While it was unpaid work, I was indeed in the papers, that's the beauty of signing the waiver.   

Not sure if anything else is missing, but if the edit was done through my page I assume that it was in bulk, so something else might be deleted, either in that exact edit or another one in a very close proximity. There is someone's crusade against me that just goes on and on for years and can probably be traced to Russian Federation (although with that rate the person behind is probably using the VPN). For some reason it feels unlikely that it's someone thinking of me as a fraud (even if my imposter syndrome would probably agree with that notion). I assume that the logic behind is either to decrease my STARMeter (which I don't care about) or annoy me deleting my 'connections to business'. It only very mildly and partially manages to achieve the latter and for a completely different reason: I was a bit enthusiastic early on in my filmmaking endeavours to keep track of my filmography, keeping the tabs as often as I can and trying my best to add a lot to IMDb. It mainly just remains as a husk-like habit at this point, with the IMDb part being of especial reluctance as my depression, life circumstances and regrets settle in too often. Having to deal with all this, while a minor nuisance, doesn't help since it always feels like for each step towards making the situation better I have to take two or three steps back to fix something that was added ages ago but is tarnished in some shape or form.  

To be honest, I just can't wrap around my head how this even happens that much. I have a Champion badge which in theory would suggest that my edits are substantiated and/or researched and yet I get "Unable to verify" on a routine edit that actually corrects cast credits according to IMDb's very own guidelines (#220827-205611-879000; I really hope a resubmission which is #220828-201019-908000 won't suffer the same fate) will go through, and yet someone casually waltzes in once in a few months and just deletes anything they want from anywhere, ranging from a name page with an IMDb Pro attached to it to dozens of titles. Then in some cases I have to re-confirm the listings which are sometimes deemed ineilgible despite being eligible before several times like in the case of Bohemian Rhapsody (2018). A bit unfair, if you ask me, but I'm playing by the rules, so I just added to my plans to listen through the scenes in that movie meticulously until I will pinpoint my voice in some shape or form and will have an audiovisual proof to go with the studio's confirmation letter. 

I'm not even frustrated about it all, just puzzled and eager to contribute in any way. Maybe it's time to introduce some additional standards of verification in order to decrease both  "Unable to Verify" for legit edits and bulk edit vandalism/harassment issues. 

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Mr. Yeriomin:

I apologize for the slight tangent (or maybe this is not a tangent at all, depending on your answer), but I checked out your filmography sorted by keywords, and I noticed that the third most prevalent keyword on your films is the keyword "trash."

https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch/?sort=moviemeter&explore=keywords&role=nm4087886&ref_=nm_ql_flmg_6

Possibly the keyword "trash" was added concurrently with the keyword "b-movie," since those have the same number of titles on your filmography (63 titles each).

Coincidentally (or perhaps not), I have seen a huge proliferation of the keyword "trash" on titles that also have the keywords "russian" and "russia." This link shows that (and it includes some of your titles):

https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/?keywords=trash%2Crussia&ref_=kw_ref_key&sort=moviemeter,asc&mode=detail&page=1

Any idea how the keyword "trash" was added to your titles? Was this another example of vandalism? Or did you or your colleagues add the keyword "trash" yourself?

If someone is adding the keyword "trash" as a self-deprecating synonym for "trash-movie," I would encourage them to use the keyword "z-movie" instead. The keyword "trash" should be reserved for actual plot points featuring "trash" (as in garbage). 

But maybe somebody is vandalizing the keywords on your titles as well, and trying to call your work "trash?"

trash (821 titles)

garbage (346 titles)

rubbish (48 titles)

trash-movie (878 titles)

euro-trash (864 titles)

z-movie (856 titles)

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@keyword_expert​ Great catch, thanks. This is exactly what's happening. I would've suspected misguided attempt at genre categorization with just "trash" (because there is a misguided use of that as an umbrella term for cult and b-movies in most post-soviet countries), but other keywords are a dead giveaway of intention. 

It's not just that. That mass purging of anyone of any renown from special thanks of my titles is seemingly spread throughout most of my filmography. I'm in the process of determining which titles were affected by the bulk editing. 

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@keyword_expert​ Adding a bit more on that tangent: aforementioned pseudo-genre/umbrella term is most likely the reason for "trash" being there in mostly titles from Russian Federation. As I've mentioned it was popularized by local film critics in Russia and other post-Soviet, who countries pretty much piled b-movies, so-bad-it's-good, parodies, just badly made movies, and campy into one non-existent 'genre' with no set rules or a definition. 

People here often try to polemize with me that "trash" is how it is called all over the world. Needless to say, most of the world just thinks of that word as describing garbage, not as a genre and/or aesthetical movement. 

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@nikolay_yeriomin​ 

I just want to clarify that "trash" is the only one of these keywords that is being used on your titles.

I simply included the other keywords for comparison purposes, to show that the keyword "trash" is being widely misused.

trash (821 titles)

garbage (346 titles)

rubbish (48 titles)

trash-movie (878 titles)

euro-trash (864 titles)

z-movie (856 titles)

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@keyword_expert​ Thanks for that additional clarification. Needless to say that picture my emotions painted after seeing that right after discovering the bulk edits was a bit affected by said emotions. 

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@nikolay_yeriomin​ No worries, my friend.

Not too long ago, all the following keywords were merged into "garbage-can."

trash-can (86 titles)

trash-bin (57 titles)

rubbish-bin (14 titles)

garbage-bin (62 titles)

garbage-can (279 titles)

I was thinking the same should happen with the "trash" keywords (merge everything into "garbage"), but perhaps they should all be merged into "trash" instead given the persistent misuse of this keyword. 

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5 months ago

nikolay_yeriomin 😀

? ?

Do you have a recent history on the

Wayback Machine
http://web.archive.org/

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@ACT_1​ Last screenshot on Wayback Machine is from 8 March 2021

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@nikolay_yeriomin​ 😀

Nothing there for "The Dark Knight Rises (2012)" ??

Try a different date ??

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@ACT_1​ Screenshot on Wayback Machine is, for some reason, region-specific, displaying this title under finnish alternate title, Yön ritarin paluu.

If this smiley face is laughing at me, I'm really not in the mood. I never am these days, to be honest, but in this particular case I think I've been laughed at enough by people who bulk-deleted hundreds of credits from titles I've directed and added keywords like "trash" all over them. 

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Hi Nikolay -

My apologies for the delayed reply.  I have now reinstated your credit listings for "The Dark Night".  Concerning the Keywords issue, as I understand, the inclusion of the "trash" keyword on your titles were an act of sabotage, if so do these titles still require a clean-up?

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@Michelle​ Greatest thanks! I've stumbled upon the reinstated credits today while I was adding a music video of mine and it lifted my spirits immensely! 

I'm not sure at this point, to be honest, but I'm planning to scan through the keywords of my titles in general, to both purge it of mistakes there might be because of me (I'm pretty sure there are "web-series" on some episode level titles which should be removed). If I'll find anything suspicious added en-masse I will report that. 

While we're at it: it just occurred to me that I've never added myself as sound recordist to Bohemian Rhapsody (2018) in the situation where my voice listing was deleted in a similar situation and then eventually found not eligible as ADR or cast. Considering that there is an official studio confirmation I can attach (e-mail from 20th Century Fox at the time) that my recordings were used, will it be eligible that way? 

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@MykolaYeriomin​ If you need help removing the "trash" keyword from your titles, just say the word. I would be glad to help. 

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@keyword_expert​ Thanks!