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Targeted review bombing of They/Them (and LGBTQ+ titles in general). Why does IMDB do absolutely nothing to stop bigoted review bombing?
They/Them is currently being review bombed and pummeled with 1 votes. It hasn't even been out for a full 24 hours and already has 400+ 1 votes (72% of total votes) and that number is rapidly rising. Overall rating is already down to a 2.2 thanks to the bigots. The movie is being advertised all over IMDB and that's why there is so much attention on this particular title at the moment. I'm sure by the end of the weekend there will be over 1,000 1 votes here. Note that this was happening before the film was even publicly released at 3 AM this morning. Voting was open prior to that because the film had premiered at a film festival. Here's a screenshot I took last night proving there was already hundreds of 1 votes prior to release. Sadly, this isn't a one time occurrence here on IMDB. It has been happening for years and is only getting worse and happening more and more frequently. Anything's Possible, Tom Swift, Queer as Folk, Lightyear, The Book of Queer, and Generation Drag are all examples of LGBTQ+ films/documentaries from ONLY the past few months that have been impacted. All have a very high percentages of 1 votes (at least 20% in these cases all the way up to a whopping 50% for Tom Swift) that is indicative of very obvious rating manipulation. Of course IMDB's worthless weighting system does absolutely nothing for any of these titles. IMDB's weighting system does nothing to help titles that are actually review bombed...they either show a rating EVEN LOWER than the mathematical average or bump the rating a measly .1 or .2 which is nothing. This is beyond unfair and ridiculous at this point, something needs to be done. IMDB is becoming overrun with bigots and nothing is being done to stop it.
On the flip side, let's look at transphobic "documentary" What Is a Woman? by Matt Walsh. That one is being pummeled too, but with 10 votes of course. Currently sitting at a 8.6 overall rating with 65% of the overall ratings being 10s. Yet NONE of those 10 votes are being filtered out by the weighting system. I'm supposed to believe all of those 10s are legitimate? Supposedly. Compare that to Transhood, a pro-trans documentary and another victim of a mass review bombing sitting with an extremely low score because the 50% share of 1 votes there that are allowed to stand. Then there's First Kill, a lesbian vampire show with a strong fan following. It has an extremely large number of 10 votes...except those 10 votes are being filtered out en masse. An 8.8 mathematical rating there but only a 6.3 weighted average. Why are so many of First Kill's ratings filtered out but none of What Is a Woman's are? Clearly, the weighting system is useless and needs a total overhaul. The people review bombing titles aren't robots but that doesn't mean their ratings are legitimate. Basically, the only way these films can overcome these hundreds or thousands of bigoted votes is if they reach a wide enough audience to combat the large number of low scores. But some projects are simply niche by nature and can never overcome the amount of review bombing placed upon them.
It's not just LGBTQ+ titles either. Basically anything starring a female or minority at this point, whatever these bigots deem as "woke" (AKA anything that dares to appeal to a group of people outside of the one they belong to), is fair game to be review bombed. Resident Evil and Mrs. Marvel are yet more examples of recent review bombings because these shows dared to have diverse female leads. Ghostbusters (2016) is notorious for being one of the first examples of this after all. Charlie's Angels (2019) and many other female-led action films suffered the same following. In the instance of Ghostbusters, IMDB actually implemented a different weighting system to combat the review bombing. Bravo! However, it's done absolutely NOTHING for the hundreds if not thousands of titles that were unfairly review bombed after that. When is something going to change? Because there are plenty more titles that deserve the separate weighting system, but again in reality the weighting system as a whole needs a revamp.





jay_spirit
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31.7K Points
3 years ago
How well is THEY/THEM rated on other sites?
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BdoMcGregor
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62 Points
3 years ago
People leave 1 star ratings for the same reason they leave 10 star ratings. They sort of want to bend reality to their will and whims. People are leaving 1 star either because they want companies to think that everyone thinks like them and to stop making movies and shows for other audiences besides them, or because they actually want to believe that they are in the mainstream but that companies are making these titles because they're misguided and that the "mainstream" isn't making their voice heard, so they see themselves as spokespeople for these unheard masses.
I am guilty of this with 10 star reviews. Whenever I find something strange, offbeat, but thoroughly enjoyable, I will give it a 10 star review...even if I don't think it's perfect because I want the title to find an audience. I might be the audience...who knows, but I believe there are others like me out there so I rate it highly so it will get seen by more. There is some wishful thinking in it. A desire to see your opinions and values reflected by society.
I just left a 10 star review on They/Them for example. Even though I haven't seen it, because it's being review bombed and also because I want to see mainstream companies make more LGBTQ+ titles as I'm a member of that community. But I don't have Peacock and really can't afford another streaming service. I think we're all a little power hungry out there and we all wish that the world wasn't so bigoted/"woke" (depending on your politics) as it actually is.
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Debster6
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66 Points
3 years ago
I totally agree with you. I regularly look through reviews of shows with minority & female leads, and report the racist/hater reviews that obviously never even bothered to watch the show/movie. Yes, “Woke” is a common term they throw in. Report the obvious BS reviews to IMDB and keep looking for & reporting them. If we all do this, it will get their attention.
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Tsarstepan
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91.4K Points
3 years ago
She-Hulk is being battered despite not officially streaming on Disney+ until tomorrow.
There's another thread about review bombing that's a consolidation of two threads on the topic. IMDb officially recognizes the problem there (admin wise). Not sure how much they're actively doing about it.
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Bethanny
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58.9K Points
3 years ago
Hi NPLxo & everyone!
Thanks a lot for all your observations and callouts. For the titles referenced we have filed tickets for the appropriate team to investigate further and take the appropriate actions.
We are aware of this persistent issue and are working on systematic improvements to prevent this type of abuse.
In the meantime, if you observe inappropriate ratings/review abuse, you can report it and we will investigate and remedy.
Cheers!
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