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Friday, December 2nd, 2022 5:01 PM

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Subgenre problem: Confidently speaking for the logical people in the world...

How can Neo-Noir NOT be a subgenre when Film-Noir IS a genre?

How can Neo-Screwball-Comedy NOT be a subgenre when Screwball-Comedy IS a genre?

How can Mockumentary NOT be a subgenre when Documentary IS a genre?

Erotica, NOT a subgenre?

Hardcore, NOT a subgenre?

Softcore, NOT a subgenre?

And on and on...

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1 year ago

Good question. Well, maybe the keywords "hardcore" and "softcore" should be replaced respectively with the keywords "hardcore-erotica" and "softcore-erotica" in addition to making pattern "-erotica" a subgenre of the "adult" genre.

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I mentioned "-erotica", but perhaps it could be looked at as "-pornography".

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1 year ago

Adding "-erotica" is just part of a bigger problem with Subgenres.  Such suffixes go against the basic principles of outlining that are usually taught by at least the 5th grade:  You go from the general to the specific.  As such, Erotica should precede Adult.  By using genres as suffixes, they are just "tagging along" in a weird and occasionally redundant way.  ("melodrama-drama," when "melodrama" would be just  fine.)"softcore" and "hardcore" should be able to stand alone, on their own, without any "erotica" suffix.

Another example of this problem: "satire-comedy," when "satire" should suffice by itself.  (By the way, there are dramas that are also satire.)

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I'm not sure that all satire constitutes comedy, but I could be mistaken.

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1 year ago

Hi @bradley_kent -

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1 year ago

When you get down to it, this is just simple logic.  It goes back to the principles of outlining that one learns in the fifth or sixth grade.  A subgenre (sub point) can only exist UNDER a genre (main point).  There is a hierarchy in outlining and organizing.  A subgenre cannot exist without "existing under" (being "sub" to) a genre.  What's so difficult to understand about this?  Even the listing of IMDb's created subgenres places them "under" a genre.

This may result in some seemingly unnecessary repetitions ("sitcom-comedy." "melodrama-drama." etc.), but it is the only logical way that subgenres can exist.  This, of course, all depends on whether one wants to be logical, or not.  We, unfortunately, may know the IMDb answer.

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