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Soundtrack denied ... impossible to verify?

This (uncredited) Soundtrack was refused:  240420-014821-990000

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"All in the Golden Afternoon" (uncredited) By Sammy Fain and Bob Hilliard
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Being played at Paul's daughter's school play (probably an adaptation of "Alice", from the Disney version of which the song originates). The words are indistinguishable, as he is in the corridor approaching the auditorium, but the tune is unmistakeable.
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Your contribution has been declined. We have been unable to verify your contribution.

I'm unaware of any way this could be verified. Certainly, I could copy the scene as a clip and post it as evidence. But who would or could verify the authenticity of such a clip? It would have to be someone intimately familiar with Disney's ALICE or experts on the works of Fain and Hilliard. Isn't that why you allow lay people, unconnected to IMDb, to submit film information? You can't possibly have the staff necessary to vet every single piece of date submitted to you. If there is an alternate way of authenticating this bit of data, please let me know; I'm all ears.

Further support for this nugget of information (which, I must confess, gave me great pleasure to catch):

ALICE is all about dreaming, in fact, it's presented (in the novel) as being all a dream on Alice's part. Dreaming is what the movie is all about.

The stage play that Paul interrupts has his daughter on the stage, in costume as the White Rabbit. Paul isn't completely sure whether his real life is a dream or his dreams are real life, just like Alice.

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Hi @hutch48,

Thank you for your problem report.

I can confirm that your contribution was declined because our processing team could not verify the information you were adding to this title page. Without sufficient evidence to confirm the inclusion of this song as part of the title's soundtrack, we cannot add this data to the page.

However, based on your description, it does sound like the inclusion of this song in this scene would not qualify it as part of the title's soundtrack. As the song being played as part of a school play suggests the music is diegetic sound, and therefore not intended for the title's audience, like most soundtrack songs, which are often credited in the on-screen end credits. 

We therefore encourage you to submit this information as a trivia item, including the additional interesting detail you have included in this thread.

Cheers!

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@Ozzy​  Submitted and accepted as a Trivia item. I would quarrel with the claim that it is merely "diegetic". Often film-makers will set a mood with the critical application of, say, a song playing on the radio in a scene. Such songs aren't always credited. (I'm thinking of the inclusion of Cliff Richards' song "Summer Holiday", playing on a transistor radio on the beach in the opening scene of Diane Kurys's DIABLO MENTHE (1977) = [link=tt0075939]. It sets the scene and the era perfectly.)

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I don't see anything in the guidelines about (uncredited) diegetic music being excluded. Throwing it in trivia, which is often overloaded with all sorts, is not helpful.