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Someone adds himself to multiple movies as production designer, despite not being officially credited for.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm13871281 like for Alien: Covenant where he isn't official listed there, as seen here: https://imgur.com/a/B78B9xu

My wild guess is that some of his other credits are also wrong.

Where/How to report such things?

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4 years ago

Hi!

I have to agree with you both @EDE & @mbmb I investigated several of the credits and none show on screen, for now we took the decision to clean the name page, and- took extra steps with the name page and the user who added the credits. Thanks for reporting this.

Cheers!

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Yeah, obviously all of them are fake, not only "some of his other credits"

Here are some other high profile titles he somehow added his fake credits to:

Thor: Love and Thunder - Currently Top 5 in popularity

Top Gun: Maverick - Currently Top 10 in popularity

Oppenheimer - Currently Top 20 in popularity

Hustle - Currently Top 50 in popularity

Zombies 3 - Currently Top 100 in popularity

Aladdin - Currently Top 1000 in popularity

Staff here frequently says the more high profile/popular a title or name becomes, the more a submission for it requires a solid evidence to be accepted. Above table obviously shows that it just doesn't work properly and almost anyone can just add any fake thing to any title easily, no matter how high profile or popular it is.

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@mbmb​ I mean he can be a graphic designer for the movie posters at his local movie distribution site in the arab region, but still doesn't make him part of the official production team. The guy who directs people to their parking lot at the studios, isn't credited as co-director on the movie which get shot there either.

My guess is the IMDB check doesn't work because they might think the production designer is not part of the core team of a movie (which it is), but I don't know.

But I don't get payed to look up every credit he was added for and update it, so I think this is a case for someone at IMDB.

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@EDE​ Most likely he's not even doing that. Amount of fake credits, fake profile and data being added to IMDb lately is huge. There is even a reason for that count of credits on this fake page (that's the number in Twitter's blue badge application requirements)

Even when someone voluntary like us does all the legwork for that staff who gets "paid", they often do things like stalling, ignoring, dismissing like here where I wasted so much time with looking up lots of credits and staff insist to stall and keep the fake profile (they couldn't produce a single evidence for their "beliefs" in the meantime): https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/fake-actor/62bec4bbfe9565530571cf9d?commentId=62c5ebd9f9105568c149dce3&replyId=62ce31a3ee0dfc016ae57dbf

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I like browsing the IMDB, heck my first time encounter with IMDB was an offline version in the early 90s on CD and became an instant fan of it. But IMDB isn't the fan project any more as it was in the 90s.

It's the dominant movie credentials related database and it's such a typical Jeff Bezos thing to exploit voluntaries for it, despite asking for money for IMDB Pro since 2002.

Maybe it's destined that this database should get exploited and become widely known to be unreliable, so something else can rise from it.

But if not, I'm sure some loud Youtuber could have a field day with your stories. That at least might push IMDB to let only confirmed production companies add credentials to movies, which would be my idea (which probably already happens anyway, just not exclusivly).

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4 years ago

I say there's no way staff didn't see this thread at this point, and Hollywood movies are removed from his page which indicates staff most likely visited this thread but they decided to silently remove only Hollywood movies and silently leave all other fake credits and leave this thread without a response to be forgotten for eternity.

@Michelle why was it decided this thread should be ignored and only Hollywood movies were fake on this name page? What made staff think or "believe" all other titles were not fake (which are all mainstream movies even though they are not "Hollywood", they are not like amateur youtube things to suspect they may be valid)

Can you share your "sources" or "onscreen credits" that made whoever visited this thread and decided to ignore it to "believe" for some reason only Hollywood movies among all randomly spammed credits of his were fake? So we can "believe" it too?

I just randomly checked the Spanish movie he declared himself as of its writer for instance, the one where IMDb staff member who most likely visited this thread silently decided it's correct, but the movie itself disagrees with that silent decision because he's nowhere in credits. If nothing, its poster could be checked at the very least. Was that really a surprise now that writer credit was of course fake as well when staff or someone just deleted a bunch of fake credits of him from top Hollywood movies? What about common sense?

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4 years ago

From what I can see it's mostly not a problem of 'fake credits' rather than total misattribution of existing listings. His biography says he's a prolific poster designer, which is a separate Art Department credit which should be added to art department, usually with "(uncredited)" since it's rarely a credited job. 

That said, I won't pretend that I know specific circumstances, since I know very little of Egypt film industry. 

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No, it's entirely a "fake credits" problem, what someone writes in his bio does not make it true, another fake page I was reporting was saying in his bio he's a "Multi-platinum Producer" who produced songs for top artists like Future, Drake, Young Thug, Lil Baby etc.. and of course none of it was true, just because he wrote that in his bio did not magically make that a reality. I even explained why he spammed exactly 50 fake credits.

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@mbmb​ I mean, as I've said I'm no expert on the region so I'm not going to pretend I'm any authority in this. Merely suggesting that things like that should be viewed  case-to-case.