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Silent film composers
I was commissioned to compose music for the silent film Little Annie Rooney (imdb.com/title/tt0016028/fullcredits), which was shown in theaters and broadcast on TCM this year; the soundtrack was also released on iTunes this year. I tried to get my credit added with the attribution (2016) but it was rejected. If you look at the full cast and crew, you'll see there's a composer named William P. Perry who wrote a score for a version released in 1976 and he's credited on IMDb with (1976) next to his name. I'm trying to add the exact same sort of credit.
Composers for silent films are frequently credited this way. Metropolis (imdb.com/title/tt0017136/fullcredits) lists seven composers who wrote scores for different releases of the film. Look at the IMDb pages of Carl Davis (imdb.com/name/nm0002301) or Robert Israel (imdb.com/name/nm0004592) or Timothy Brock (imdb.com/name/nm0110640), whose IMDb pages list work they did decades after the films' original releases, and you'll see that this is a very common way to credited silent film composers on IMDb.
I contacted the IMDb help desk and was told that my credit was rejected because they "only store data that is reflected in the credits of the original titles" and "try to be as consistent as possible" about sticking to their policy. But I think I have shown that what would be most consistent across the site would be for silent film composers to be credited on IMDb as they have always been credited.
I was told that I might submit this suggestion to the IMDb Support Community that silent film composers be credited this way (the way they already are...) - what are your thoughts?
Composers for silent films are frequently credited this way. Metropolis (imdb.com/title/tt0017136/fullcredits) lists seven composers who wrote scores for different releases of the film. Look at the IMDb pages of Carl Davis (imdb.com/name/nm0002301) or Robert Israel (imdb.com/name/nm0004592) or Timothy Brock (imdb.com/name/nm0110640), whose IMDb pages list work they did decades after the films' original releases, and you'll see that this is a very common way to credited silent film composers on IMDb.
I contacted the IMDb help desk and was told that my credit was rejected because they "only store data that is reflected in the credits of the original titles" and "try to be as consistent as possible" about sticking to their policy. But I think I have shown that what would be most consistent across the site would be for silent film composers to be credited on IMDb as they have always been credited.
I was told that I might submit this suggestion to the IMDb Support Community that silent film composers be credited this way (the way they already are...) - what are your thoughts?
jack_c9tl9k2zpb1y6
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8 years ago
Maybe imdb staff can shed some light on why William Perry is credited as 'music by 1976' for a 1925 silent film.
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walter_7946974
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8 years ago
Then you should be able to add your name as composer for that release.
http://www.americancinemathequecalendar.com/content/little-annie-rooney-0
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simon_yaw
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8 years ago
William Perry did not compose music for the film 'Little Annie Rooney' he composed Music for Great Films of the Silent Era, Vol. 2 (The new orchestral CD of music by William P. PerryIreland RTÉ National Symphony, P. Phillips)
This was not a re-release of the film but purely a CD of music.
The entry is incorrect and should be deleted.
http://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=20065
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terry_michael_huud
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8 years ago
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eboy
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terry_michael_huud
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7 years ago
I would like to know why I can not get credit for the newly restored Silent films I have provided scores for. I see that in 1926 (The Magician) a silent film was scored by Robert Israel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017103/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast) He was NOT part of the original 1926 crew as he did not score the film until much after the film was produced.
And yet my credits to the newly re-mastered Willis O'Brien/Dawley films, "The Ghost of Slumber Mountain" (1918) and "Along the Moonbeam Trail" (1921) are being denied by IMDB. These films have been EXTENSIVELY updated with all new graphics and a full restoration job on each frame. Leonard Maltin recently reviewed these restored films and even mentions me in his article. http://leonardmaltin.com/the-unsung-grandfather-of-king-kong/ ;
I think IMDB should be fair and allow me these credits if others are allowed.
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terry_michael_huud
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7 years ago
"Thanks for your message and for bringing this to our attention.
We do not allow credits for restored versions on our site; we list our filmography items based on a titles' original end credit sequence.
As such, we have removed this other credit as this is not eligible for listing.
Thank you for your understanding."
I wrote back:
"Thats absolutely brilliant. Instead of giving people CREDIT where credit is due. (I spent 6 months writing music for 2 feature films and 13 shorts) you take the credits away.
Keep up the good work." -th
This is opens up a very interesting discussion. If you were left off the end title credits (I don't care WHEN the film was made) you didn't work on it. Or at least, IMDB doesn't think you worked on it. Now, I happen to know several HUNDRED people who DID NOT receive credit anywhere on the film itself but still keep their credit on IMDB. Hmmmmmm. And furthermore, if they want to stick to their END TITLE formula what about all of the ABOVE THE LINE film composers who were not listed at the END but received FRONT titles. I guess they should not get listed on IMDB either. I think I shall consult my entertainment lawyer.
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