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Silas (1981) Episode issues - Should this title be changed or left as is?

I had just been given the actual DVD discs for a 1981 German TV series call Silas.  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081929

On IMDB it lists only 6 episodes with runtime of 45 mins each.   The actual DVD has 12 episodes with runtime of 23 mins.  Since I have an official DVD release, I am assuming is correct that there are 12 episodes of 23 mins each.  When looking at the episodes themselves there is no actual episode title on the episodes opening or closing credits.   Now at one time they did dub it into english, and I am wondering if the 6 x 45 min episodes are the dubbed version.  Before I submit changes in, does anyone have any ideas on this one?  Should they be listed as 6 x 45mins or 12 x23mins?  The DVD menu just lists them as episode 1 to episode 12 and no actual episode title on the episodes themselves.


Should this title be changed or left as is?  Thoughts? ideas?  If left as is, how do we mark it that it was also shown as 12 episodes?

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German sources like this and this indicate original German version was 6 episodes. Most importantly the original network ZDF says it's six part series: https://www.zdf.de/serien/silas

So IMDb's current episode list looks correct. Wikipedia says "The BBC took the series from Cori Film Distributors and split it into 12 half hour episodes starting on 16 May 1984", so that's not the original version. This can be noted via a trivia or maybe an Alternate Versions item. But episodes shouldn't be changed.

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The version I have is not the BBC version.  The BBC version is dubbed in English.  It is in German with no subtitles.   I think may be this was a release then in Germany, may be for a Saturday morning Kids program schedule or something like that.  Either way, since the version I have does not match the 6 episodes, it will be very hard to add the missing information to IMDB.  It would be impossible to determine when one episode starts and the other ends, or if something was deleted or added.  From what I saw of the form for Alternate Versions it does not allow you to give all the details or run time for each episode.  The alternate version would work fine for a movie, however, is not designed well to do a complete TV series.  That is something IMDB needs to explore on how to do alternate versions of a complete TV series, where runtimes and number of episodes are different.

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@ZacGates_BDS​ There are DVD releases with original 6 episodes too. Back cover of this DVD says 6 episodes for example: https://www.laserdisken.dk/html/visvare.dna?vare=150753705042125608

Also if you check this archived page, you can see ZDF releases it online from time to time, and their episodes are 6x45 min episodes: https://web.archive.org/web/20220418220949/https://www.zdf.de/serien/silas

This review says "The six one-hour episodes ran daily as a ZDF Christmas series between Christmas and New Year's Eve.": http://www.fernsehlexikon.de/1345/silas/

I think it's clear original run was 6 episodes, all sources indicate that.

Either way, since the version I have does not match the 6 episodes, it will be very hard to add the missing information to IMDB.

I think it wouldn't be too hard to acquire the 6 episodes version or find it online somehow since ZDF puts it online to watch for free from time to time.