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Script Supervisors Feel Cheated

We are NOT "miscellaneous crew", but because IMDB calls us that anyway, our "known for" sections are a complete disaster.

As a script supervisor in film/tv, I have one of the most important jobs on set. Any entertainment industry professional can vouch for that. During production, it's me, the director, the DP, and the 1st AD who are right in the fire. Yet, on IMDB, script supervisors have always been listed under "miscellaneous crew" as if we're not all that important. It's bothered us for years, but with your recent changes to the "known for" section it's now a complete disaster. Now all of our IMDB pages look terrible because the "known for" list is chosen by highest department. I've worked on major motion pictures but now instead of showing those, my page shows no-name films from college because I happened to be a set dresser, casting assistant, or even a PA (why that would ever come before script supervisor blows my mind). Producers and directors constantly use IMDB for hiring and now we all look like we've done squat. IMDB has essentially destroyed our resumes.

I know users can change the "known for" section if they have imdbPro but that's literally the only reason a script supervisor would need pro and it's just not worth the money. I signed up for the 30 day trial to take care of it for now because it's that terrifying to have it look so bad as a freelancer, but please, I'm begging IMDB to either change the "known for" rules or finally fix our category. Make a "continuity" department and put it in the area of priority it deserves. Or even list us in an already existent category that's more appropriate. Otherwise, your website will be viewed as less valuable and less reliable in this industry, and will become obsolete to a big chunk of professionals who rely on it to quickly assess a contractor's experience.
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8 years ago

Hi, script supervisors. Please continue to working getting more eyes on this subject matter. You might also want to consider contacting IMDb through conventional mail in addition to all the means encouraged by the website. Also, if you can get enough attention, then you might garner help from the press or television/radio news outlets. By the way, I don't know much of anything about script supervising, so you have to make sure that people like me understand the role of your profession in the creative industries of cinema. Thanks, and good luck.

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8 years ago

We are a Department Head. We are a Department of one. Just because you don't know where to put us, doesn't mean we don't belong. I have been recognized in the film community as having one of the most important jobs on set, yet IMDB (which some view as a Movie Bible) lists my job as one of the least important. If giving us our own category (like the rest of the industry does) is not possible, then at least put us in a category that makes more sense... camera or editorial, for example, is where scrolling credits tend to put us if we don't have our own line. If you want us to fork out the money for a PRO account, then recognize us as the pros we are.

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THIS

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8 years ago

We are instrumental to the production!

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8 years ago

I wonder if we got Directors, and DP's who we work closely with to voice our importance to the production, if then they might listen.

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Can we get 871 and 161 on this? 
What's the next big step?

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8 years ago

UPDATE: It looks like IMDB has changed their "known for" algorithm in some way because now they're at least listing script supervised projects again. Still not perfect, and we still aren't in the category we deserve, but little wins :)

IMDB, please don't forget the other issues.

Thanks everyone!

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8 years ago

I posted this on my network recently. It was to defend another script supervisor who was having to explaining his job duties to someone who "IS IN THE INDUSTRY?".


"We are Department Heads that are logged under Miscellaneous Crew on IMDB. Why is it that there are so many people in our industry that are either ignorant or turn a blind eye to the complex duties and stressful demands our jobs as script supervisors require?

My mentor, Robert Gary, is mentioned in this first article.

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=19201451

https://nofilmschool.com/2017/03/what-is-a-script-supervisor

I hope this helps."

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I wonder of the above drawing (found in Jon Fusco's article) is copyrighted. Regardless, I would like for it to appear in this thread.

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6 years ago

Hey all,

I've just posted a community update around Script & Continuity credits which might be interesting! 

You can find it here:

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/changes-to-script-continuity-credits

Thanks all,

Joel 

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Not saying everyone should have their own category, but Production is the most central and key department on any production, and do deserve to have a category!
Alphabetical listing is not going to help in any way whatsoever - IMDB is a tool - if I'm trying to find out who worked on a certain film and don't know their name, I won't be able to find them!!
Seems that last year you shared the same view:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/production_dept_should_be_separate

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Seems you are an outsider. 
Not trying to create "silly little Idaho", but recognising the key department and make IMDB the useful tool that it should be. 
There is a reason why end credits on any film are done in departments not alphabetically

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