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5.3K Points
Request To Have Helpful "No" Button Removed
I would like to lobby for the removal of the "No" button when we are asked this question for each review that is posted. I feel that it serves no purpose whatsoever. People will try to manipulate things by clicking on the "No" so that their review will get better placement in the rankings. Whether it really affects it or not is inconsequential. It is the fact that they believe it will, so they click on it. Or, the Haters will be "hatin'". All we need is the "Yes" button. That is good enough indication. The "Report This" is already there, so if there is anything inappropriate, it can still be reported and looked at. And besides, the phrasing isn't right either. "Was this review helpful to you?" is for those who have yet to see the movie, but the voters are primarily those who have already seen the movie. So, perhaps a change of phrasing ... "Do you agree with this review?" Yes No. But, then again, we would still have the same issue with the haters and the manipulators. This current system is being abused.
My suggestion/idea is to completely remove the "No" button, and leave only the "Yes" in place. Or, change it to simply, "Like". If the readers like your review, they can click it. It they don't, then obviously, they wouldn't click it.
Thank you!
mark_l_levinson
17 Messages
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680 Points
4 years ago
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ACT_1
8.4K Messages
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174.7K Points
4 years ago
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Was this review helpful? [Yes] [No]
IF a Review gets ___ "No"s will it be removed ?
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bethany_6050787
80 Messages
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4.7K Points
4 years ago
I have actually done my best to ignore it, move on and not talk about it anymore for the past 9 months publicly, but it recently got really bad and has made me not feel appreciated or welcome anymore. It is not that there is a non helpful button in the first place that is bothering me and some downvotes every now and again are expected. It's the abuse of it that is the problem in my case and in other people's cases too, a few other prolific reviews have had this happen to them. For example, using this as an example and not talking about me, up to a couple of hundred reviews (few for recent titles) downvoted each time of the 30 plus times it's happened, in just one night, and with up to 0 out of 5 for example by the end of the week for most of them is not normal. By all means there are people that abuse the yes button as well, but from what I have seen the no button is abused much more.
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front_row_reviews
180 Messages
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5.3K Points
4 years ago
I personally don't care if I am a top reviewer. I don't care if I am on anyone's list. However, the thought that some person in a bad mood or disposition, can pull up my reviews list and just methodically go down it and click on "no" all the way down for no reason at all irks me. This system is tainted and does not work. Again, in my honest opinion.
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JSDunkirk29
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170 Points
4 years ago
I 100% agree with this. If a review is helpful, let people praise it. If a review is not helpful, then ignore it, move on. Nobody's forcing you to agree with it, or even like it.
Furthermore, the "helpful" is often confused for "agree", thus leading to some of the top reviews on countless movies receiving literally hundreds of "no's" despite the fact that they give people every possible bit of information and are well-written, simply because people who dislike the film (or are just haters) press"no."
@front_row_reviews put it perfectly: either remove the "no" button completely and just leave the "yes", or (even better) just change the button to "like" (with no dislike). This way, the unhelpful reviews will still be at the bottom (because they won't get votes), and the helpful ones will still be at the top.
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nick_burfle
189 Messages
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6K Points
4 years ago
I think Karen is right. There is a distinct difference between not agreeing with a review and not finding it helpful. A lot of reviewers will write two or three sentences, saying (to make up an example) that a film is just stupid, promotes the (liberal/conservative) agenda, and was a waste of the viewer's time. I find that completely unhelpful to decide whether I want to see it, and I hope IMDb will continue to let us flag it so.
And although it does not apply to Bethany's reviews, which have meaningful content (I looked once, out of curiosity), if I find a review like the one I just described, I will indeed go to that user's profile, look at a page or two of the others, and indicate whether any of them would be helpful to me. Usually not... but there have been a few times when I voted "helpful" no matter how useless the other 24 on the page were.
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frank_wiener_fe4dw90cmuqbe
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1.9K Points
4 years ago
I usually vote "helpful" for reviews that are carefully written and intelligent, regardless of my agreement or not with the reviewer rating. If I can't understand the review or if it is very poorly worded, I will vote "unhelpful". If a reviewer does not sufficiently explain why he or she likes or dislikes a movie, I will usually vote "unhelpful". I hope that my reviews are not in this category. I try to justify my opinion, although I may not succeed all the time.
I just discovered that an IMDb user voted at least 10 of my most recent reviews as "unhelpful" all at once during the past few days. I don't know if IMDb can track this user because I would like to know why this person found all of these recent reviews as "unhelpful". I must have really angered the person with one of the reviews. What prevents another user from totally trashing me on IMDb?
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nick_burfle
189 Messages
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6K Points
4 years ago
I would also respectfully point out that in terms of biasing the results, people seem to "misuse" the "helpful-yes" as much as the no, at least judging by the many one- or two-line reviews that pop up to the top of some titles' lists.
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mark_w_h9oezt9satnxv
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2.8K Points
4 years ago
I noticed this recently on a review that I was copying and pasting to a word document I keep of my reviews. It was a major classic title so I figured somehow it was just discovered. But a bunch of reviews for very obscure films written in the days before it were also voted down, one of them for a film that didn't have any other reviews. So it's apparent that someone is doing it purposely in a silent stalking way. Pretty idiotic and pointless so it reflects on their mentality (or lack of it), not me. I don't give deliberately cruel people power so let them try their worst. My self esteem is stronger than their lack of brain cells.
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