Removing Genre

No problem, but I'm sure a contributor will use the emmy thing as evidence so I should mention this. Never use the emmys when deciding a genre. The emmys are a show that is meant for behind the scenes people main but they don't recognize any other genre besides comedy and anything that's not a comedy they put it in as a drama. They don't recognize the existence of any other genre. (which was a major complain for a while)

Gunsmoke sort of really puts the genre thing to the test because of the carry over it has on other pages. It lasted 635 episodes. I'd guess maybe 60 to 75 comedies or more, probably 65 or more romance episodes, I'd say maybe 75 or more "family episodes) like there's a 2 part episode about boys wanting to run away to become pirates. etc  I wouldn't say a vast majority is drama (I've watched all 635) but it is what it is.  It actually went through several phases.

Anyways no problem just figured I'd try  since the bleed over to the actors who appeared in them is rather enormous. (i.e. now Billy Curtis is down for a drama where he telling the people he's going to turn into a werelephant which is anything but)

I forgot to mention this and it's very important to the other reason Gunsmoke shouldn't be listed as a drama. The emmy award that you mentioned is for a single episode. "Baker's Dozen. "  The other "emmy" awards were in 1959. 

Yes, Gunsmoke had a dramatic tone then but it was deemed way to violent and completely changed. By 1964 the ratings were down and in the show was up for cancellation. They had to change so they took away the hardened drama aspect and it became more of a family series with comedy episodes, family episodes, etc.  The Star (James Arness) got power and ended up only having maybe 8 episodes a year feature him. Most of the rest were comedy, family, etc. and by the late 1960s congress came along and did the anti-violence thing and stripped it for the most post were there were more tongue and cheek episodes.  Essentially meaning that drama would cover maybe the first 7 or so so seasons but not the remaining 12 or 13 so no drama doesn't describe the whole series. 

 It's complicated but see here's an example of a 1978 newspaper. Nobody ever considered it a drama and listing drama as a genre on it or Bonanza actually does far more harm than good as far as the accuracy of the profiles because say 300 episodes you consider drama. That still means 335 episodes aren't and now that mispresents those 335 episodes and since it bleeds over to the people's profiles, causes it to create a false genre credit.    Just to give you an example,

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046593/reference/

Disneyland is a show that in the early 1960s probably did 60% westerns including Zorro, El Fego Baca, Texas John Slaughter, Davey Crockett,  Gallagher, and a few others but it's not down as a western because while it's a strong representation of what they did in the 1960s, it's not the whole series.

Star Trek is the same way. It has far more drama than Gunsmoke but isn't considered a drama. Because it's overaching story is a scifi one as Gunsmoke is as a western. 
 
Speaking of which here's just one of probably thousands of photos you can see where TV guides of the era just said it was a western. 

Sorry for the Gunsmoke crashcourse but I figured that it's best to have put it out there with proof etc on why it shouldn't be listed as a drama. They even created Festus Hagen which was a comedy foil for a lot of episodes which the deviated from the drama format in 1963. 

Gunsmoke was not a drama after like the 7th season. Here's an example of the random stupid "comical" things they'd do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xETJz9EIFrg

Hi @phillip​ -

Thanks for the additional information and TV Guide screen grab, after reviewing further and reconsidering, I have now removed the "Drama" genre.

Thanks again for the additional context!

No problem and I truly thank you.

I hate to ask this but it's sort of inner related and something I've tried for years. Can you remove the comedy genre from the series Maverick? Maverick is another thing that pretty much should only be listed as a western but because it stars James Garner people think it's a comedy. The reality is the first season had one somewhat comedy episode (The Relic of Fort Tejon) Read the synopsis from the page.   If you read the synopsis you'll see how the subject matter. 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050037/episodes?season=1


By the middle of the first season the brought in Jack Kelly to do more serious episodes (Garner did some also)  By the 2nd season Garner did a couple of comedy episodes but not much. I think the comedy started with an episode called Gun-Shy (a make fun of Gunsmoke) but the show had some tongue and cheek characters.  James Garner became successful and left the series after the 3rd season  Then by the middle of the 4th season they started trying to do some comedy episodes (very very bad comedy) but still not consistent. They were having episodes about finding bodies in ice et. 

Here's a studio sampler (only a minute from season 1) by no means is the tone comedic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpLtkL3BNCk

and here's a studio sampler from a later season starring Roger Moore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObLB90rs2Js

Anyways thanks again for listening, I don't mean to come off as whiny, it seems that sometimes it's just a case of somebody who has watched the shows vs somebody who hasn't and then both trying to explain to a staff member who has to take both equal.  (trust me when I was in college a few years ago somebody act shocked when I told them I actually watched something in black and white) 

Anyways thanks again, I know it's a thankless job and I couldn't be more grateful.

Phil

Hi @phillip​ -

I'm happy to help, and thanks for this additional report and evidence.  I have now modified the genre list for the series Maverick as well, the change should be live on the site shortly.

Cheers!

When the computer algorithm deems a message a bit off topic it marks it as private but essentially I was just saying it seems to be getting worse but just to pick battles that are worthwhile. Here's the response screenshotted though the photo is a bit messed up. The 2nd row not show was westerns.

Phil

@phillip​ Thanks for explaining and re-posting your message. I agree that we should pick our battles and focus on issues /errors we do have influence over. Given that, I mostly ignore the keyword area because it is pretty messy.

That being said, some issues do get fixed, even though it (usually) takes some time. One fix that made me happy recently was this one: https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/blocking-tv-shows-that-cant-be-that-old/5f4a79f28815453dba91e84c?commentId=63ee7d0fa5589135ff2b7c18&replyId=64aedf76c59d8813293d0f01

All the best,

Marco (k_luifje on the ol' Contributors Board)

@phillip​ Again I get the message that you've posted something, but I'm able to see it. Do you go off topic that easily? :)

@Marco​ Actually was not me, I didnt reply to your recent posting. 

@phillip​ Hmm, okay.