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Rejection of Accurate Genres Continues #3 Why?

Two films with the same characters and subjects appeared two years apart: Gothic (1986) and Haunted Summer (1988).  Yet, Gothic has Drama, Fantasy, Horror and Mystery as genres, while Haunted Summer has Biography, Drama and Romance as genres.  Shouldn't the genres be the same for both titles?  Why are they different?

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3 years ago

Hi bradley_kent -

 

Can I have the submission reference for the genres rejections?

 

Thanks!

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3 years ago

I was looking for guidance.  Here are two new ones:

221026-191559-116000
Track Contribution
2022-10-26 19:15:59 Gothic (1986)
Genres -  2 items added
221026-191454-325000
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2022-10-26 19:14:54 Haunted Summer (1988)
Genres -  3 items added

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Oh... and here's a partial old, rejected submission that I found:

220421-174114-205000
Track Contribution
2022-04-21 17:41:14 Gothic (1986)
Genres -  1 item added

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3 years ago

Thanks for posting them.

So they look like different movies to me.

For Gothic, regarding the romance genre, are there scenes where you can see emotional attachment? also they have to be important to the plot of the movie, as our guidelines say " if this does not describe the movie wholly, but only certain scenes or a subplot, then it should be submitted as a keyword instead." Let me know.

And regarding the Biography genre is this movie based on a real person for some or all of their lifetime?

For haunted summer, from what I can see on the plot, the description of the movie on other sites, nowhere does it say it is a horror movie, that there is a mystery to solve or magical or mystical events. Let me know if there is.

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3 years ago

It's been some time, but I saw both films in a theatre, and they were very similar in content.  They both comply with IMDb's guidelines for the genres in question.  I directed a production of the stage play Bloody Poetry, and saw the two films again as part of my research for that production.  The "haunting" in Haunted Summer was, likewise, a mystery.  The same four main  historical characters and their relationships, both romantic and otherwise, were the basis of the drama, the mystery, the romance, the fantasy, and, yes, the horror (Mary Shelley's creation of the Frankenstein character).

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Look at the plot summary for Gothic: "The Shelleys visit Lord Byron and compete to write a horror story."

The films are both biography and romance because they both deal with Lord Byron and Claire Clairmont, and Percy Bysshe Shelley and Mary Godwin, as well as subtextual romanticizing by John Polidori and a possible love triangle (quadrangle?).  They are mystery, horror and fantasy because of what transferred in that summer of 1815, and because Mary Godwin Shelley came up with the story of Frankenstein, as did Polidori for his novel Vampyres.

The birth of the most famous character in horror (Frankenstein) surely warrants the inclusion of Horror as a genre on these two films about his creation.

Also, read the external and user reviews, please.

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Horror

Should contain numerous consecutive scenes of characters effecting a terrifying and/or repugnant narrative throughout the title.

One user review of Haunted Summer says, "The Romantics discussing and making verses by the lake is much more my piece of cake than the atmosphere of supernatural terror and licentious excess of Gothic."

Another: "Gothic works as an independent piece of shock film, and I loved it for different reasons, but this works like a Merchant and Ivory film."

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I think the problem with Gothic and Biography might be with this part of the guideline: "should generally follow reasonably close to the factual record."

As one user review says, "I knew enough about the film going in to know not to expect any type of biography or true-story take on the actual events."

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