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Tuesday, January 7th, 2020 3:41 PM

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"Rebelde" (2004) Keywords

IMDb's guideline is very clear: Episode-specific keywords submitted to the TV series page Keywords submitted to the TV series page should be relevant to and describe the entire series. Keywords that are specific to a particular episode should be added to that episode only.

On the "Rebelde" (2004) series, episode keywords duplicate keywords that are already listed at the series level.  The keywords for all episodes should probably be deleted since they duplicate keywords at the series level.

This was addressed last year, when thousands of incorrect keywords at the episode level were carefully deleted.  Now, they have frustratingly reappeared!

Staff should follow its one guidelines.  And the submitter of these incorrect keywords should be informed of his/her mistake, and barred from submitting such further mistakes.  (It is probably one contributor.) The mistakes number in the thousands!

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5 years ago

I spent so much time last year submitting deletions, one by one, of all these duplicate episode keywords.  Now, to see them reappear is very frustrating and insulting.  Please, address this concern.  Someone(s) made an awful mistake.

Is it possible to delete ALL episode keywords for a series?  If it is, please do so,

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5 years ago

It's as if someone at IMDb mistakenly decided to "leave" (or "return," since they had all previously been "deleted") 100 incorrect keywords for every episode.

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5 years ago

How about a response?

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5 years ago

Hi Bradley,

Thanks for your post.

Here at IMDb, we always welcome corrections to the database. If you're aware of inaccurate information on our site, please let us know through the 'Edit page' button which is listed at the bottom of every page on our website.

If you find these get added back please give us a list of ones you have specifically deleted and we can look into this.

Thanks

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5 years ago

Well... I have submitted (and they have been accepted) corrections of all the incorrect keywords for this series.  This was a time-consuming project and an unnecessary replication of my previous submissions.

As a longtime contributor to IMDb, I find it somewhat naive and unprofessional that you tell me that IMDb "always welcomes corrections to the database" and to use the "Edit Page" button.  I am well aware of this information, and have been for many, many years.

What I would like is: (I) that the original contributor of this incorrect information be made aware of his/her mistake; and (2) that the keyword list manager(s) be reminded of and adhere to the guidelines.

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I sure hope a staffer will respond to this, but it has been answered, so I'm afraid IMDb doesn't give you the attention they should give you. It's rather sad really.

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3 years ago

Mr. Kent,

You claim the guidelines are "very clear," yet it looks like for years now, you have been misinterpreting them to say something they do not say. I suppose that means the guidelines are not very clear at all.

In this post you repeatedly explain that you have been interpreting the guidelines to mean that "[t]he keywords for all episodes should probably be deleted since they duplicate keywords at the series level."

Yet there is nothing in these guidelines prohibiting or even discouraging the duplication of specific keywords at both the series level and in specific episodes.

Instead, the guidelines tell contributors to limit keywords on series titles to keywords that apply to the entire series, and to limit keywords on episodes to the specific episodes for which the keywords are actually relevant. It's as simple as that.

The bottom line is that keywords must be relevant to the title/page where they are posted (whether a whole series or an episode). Keywords should not be posted to a series unless they apply to the entire series or to the vast majority of the series.  Keywords should not be posted to a specific episode if they do not apply to that particular episode. And under these guidelines (and common sense), it is completely okay for a keyword to appear in both a series title and an episode underneath that episode (or even all the episodes, so long as the keyword is relevant to all the episodes). 

Again, the guiding principle of these guidelines is relevance, not avoiding duplication. 

Apparently you have spent countless hours deleting relevant keywords from episodes for which the keywords are in fact relevant. Your efforts I am sure were well-intentioned and were based on an honest misreading of the guidelines, but at this point you really should discontinue this counterproductive practice. There is simply no reason (either under these guidelines or under basic common sense) to delete a keyword from an episode when the keyword is relevant to that episode.

Even worse, by deleting these keywords from episodes, you are negating the legitimate work of your fellow contributors, and interfering with the ability of other users to search for and find episodes based on keyword-combination searches. (It is impossible to mix and match keywords from both a series level and an episode level in the same search, which means the keywords really need to be in both places if they are relevant to both places.)

In time, once the true meaning of the guidelines sinks in, I hope you will thank me for giving you back some free time to make more important edits to IMDb keywords! 

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