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Production department "miscellaneous crew"???
Why is it that Production are still listed as "miscellaneous" or "other" crew on IMDb?
Production are the hub of information on all films, we are the ones who send the call sheets, the schedules, who organise for everyone to be in the right place at the right time so that the films can actually take place. As much as people like to think it, you can't just turn up and make a film.
Frankly most of the miscellaneous section has people who should have their own departments, Production, Accounts, Continuity, all are intergral parts of a film and should be recognised as such.
If other departments, such as locations and drivers are able to be given their own section and moved out of "other" then I think that other departments that ensure that the film even takes place should be recognised too.
Production are the hub of information on all films, we are the ones who send the call sheets, the schedules, who organise for everyone to be in the right place at the right time so that the films can actually take place. As much as people like to think it, you can't just turn up and make a film.
Frankly most of the miscellaneous section has people who should have their own departments, Production, Accounts, Continuity, all are intergral parts of a film and should be recognised as such.
If other departments, such as locations and drivers are able to be given their own section and moved out of "other" then I think that other departments that ensure that the film even takes place should be recognised too.
steve_crook
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I think that they should usually be submitted under 'Production Managers'.
The Help Guide for Production Managers says:
This list records all production management jobs. That includes all variants of production manager (such as unit production manager and assistant production manager), as well as related jobs like production supervisor, unit manager, executive in charge of production, and production director.
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hayleigh_roberts
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That's only the top people in Production though, what about Production Coordinator, Assistant Coordinator, Secretary, Assistants. We are all still very much listed in Miscellaneous.
In the same way that there is 3 different sections for Art Dept - "Production Designer", "Art Direction by" and then "Art Department" or for Camera there is "Cinematography by" which is the DOP and then "Camera" department for everyone else (and weirdly the Sparks and Grips but that's a whole other thing).
In UK feature film & high end TV drama production offices the hierachy is:Exec Producer,
UPM,
Production Supervisor (can potentially be Production Manager),
Production Coordinator,
Assistant Production Coordinator,
Production Secretary,
Production Assistant.
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steve_crook
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A lot of departments listings have errors and miscategorisations in them. They need to hire a decent editor to work through them all.
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MykolaYeriomin
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Separating departments and categorizing them is very hard website-wise. IMDb is slowly progressing in that, but it does not take drastic quick steps in order not to have a bigger mess.
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beatrice_belli
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6 years ago
Can someone help me understand why Production Office personnel (including roles like: Production Coordinator, APOC, Production Secretary, Office PA, Office Runner, etc), on IMDB, doesn't get a category of credits of their own?
Why is IMDB even preventing them to be listed under "Production Management"? (I'm referring to THIS post) Aren't they the very first ones to manage the day to day aspects of a production?
I can understand why a Script Supervisor, even though it IS a key role, ends up in the bottomless category of "Miscellaneous Crew". Being a one-person department (two at best, if you have a trainee) it wouldn't make sense - in terms of classification and databases - to create a whole category to list just that one role.
But, for the very same reason, it is unthinkable that the "Production People" don't have a category of their own:
- Fact 1) every project has a "Production" department
- Fact 2) "Production" is an actual, structured, and well identifiable department with its own hierarchy
These are the numbers of credits currently (June 2018) listed on IMDB under "Miscellaneous Crew":(hint: it's very easy to spot them because they are usually listed at the very top of every crew list, usually because they are the ones everyone else turns to in order to solve their problems)
(every production in the world has -at least- one Production Coordinator and various degrees of PA/assistants, not to mention APOCs, Prod Secs, and so on)
397,287 production coordinator
135,761 production staff
97,720 production secretary
53,267 assistant production coordinator
45,725 production team
29,105 office production assistant
21,987 production runner
19,329 production intern
3,091 office assistant
1,992 office coordinator
1,109 office intern
1.004 office pa
216 Office Production Assistant
Total: 807,593 credits
Considering that they are the very pillars of the whole Production, who put in inhumanly long hours without even the benefit of overtime bonuses, I'd say that the least IMDB could do is recognize their hard work by crediting them under their rightful category and not throw them in the black hole of the Misc. Crew next to "animal wranglers" and "marine coordinators" (with all due respect to them), who definitely cannot be considered the backbone staff of a production.
Couldn't IMDB at least include these people under the "Production Management" category and call it "Production Department" or simply "Production", like it was originally supposed to be?
Looking forward to feedback on this.
Thanks!
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