"producer" attributes in cast credits

@scgary66​ Yes, it was an attribute; I've since removed the credit and re-added them in the producer category, so can't supply the link, but it was essentially just a regular cast credit with "(producer)" in the attribute field.

Speaking of character descriptions, I've always wondered about that as well. Usually they are used for describing that person's role IN the talk show, documentary, whatever - so, "Self - Host", "Self - Narrator", etc. But I have also noticed them used to transcribe the subtitle in talking head documentaries, e.g. "Self - Director". But then, taking those other credits as a precedent, the implication is that those people perform that particular role on-screen; otherwise, there's a complete inconsistency about how these roles are credits. Granted, there won't be many situations where there's much overlap or confusion, but it certainly does happen. (For example, I have seen "Self - Host of [game show name]" in both documentaries, and kid's entertainment shows with a game show strand. Or "Self - Producer" or "Director" in talk shows or game shows where they walk onto camera for whatever reason.)

It seems to me that "Self - [role]" should only be used where those people are performing that role IN the title, otherwise we're trying to have it both ways. But I'm probably in a minority, judging by how many of those types of credits already exist.

@tom_wake​ 

I agree there is such an inconsistency. To resolve it would probably require a guideline update: While the main guideline says to describe "their role in the title," the more specific guidelines here also say, "For news and current affairs programs/documentaries, the description given in the subtitle when the name appears on screen is preferred." And those descriptions are often not about their role in the title.

@tom_wake​ Was the character field for the producers blank? Still curious. As for the general formatting issue, in cases of a documentary in which someone is interviewed, or appear briefly for some other reason, I've got no problem with a descriptor which indicates why they're appearing (e.g. Self - Childhood Friend, Self - Rock Music Critic, Self - Murder Witness, etc.). For most non-fiction series (game shows, talk shows, news programs), their function is usually more standardized and discernible from the type of program.

@scgary66​ The character field just repeated the person's name, with "producer" or "executive producer" in the attribute field.

I watched the thing itself, just to make sure, but they did not appear on camera, only in the credits as producers

@tom_wake​ Apparently similar to the way producers, directors, etc. get their names attached to photos and videos even when they don't appear in them.

@Peter_pbn​ And regarding descriptions below names - quite often, more than one description is used (contributor, newspaper editorial board, institute fellow, author). If it's someone with an established page and numerous credits, I don't think a description is necessary; if it's a new page for a person, or relatively few credits (and particularly for a common name), I'll usually add a description to their bio page, and ideally an external link or two.