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Plot Timeframe category should be expanded to include...
...any keyword that has to do with time. This should not become a semantics/definition argument because timeframe and timespan may, specifically, mean different things.
The Plot Timeframe category now just seems to accept keywords with the word "timeframe" in them, and those with a "year-" prefix, and those with a "-century" suffix, and those that just have a standalone year date.
Second, minute, hour, day, week, month, year, season, century, millennia, eon, etc. keywords, all should be categorized as a Plot Timeframe. This should include "the-past," "the-present," specific dates on a calendar, even "infinity"! Even a possible keyword like "sense-of-time."
Yes, ALL could be considered a Plot Detail, but the fact that these keywords all have to do with "time" (and I might add, "frame" and "span") would seem to logically justify their placement in the same category. "The "frame" and "span" distinction is a distinction probably not bound to be common knowledge among contributors.
(And, yes, there may be some exceptions. There almost always are.)
jeorj_euler
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Well, this is not necessarily a poor idea. I would hope that we could arrive at a consistent formatting that acquiesces significantly to common parlance. So...
...for the various millennia, we could have, e.g., the keywords "first-millennium" (the 1st through 999th years on the Gregorian calendar), "second-millennium" (the 1,001st through 1,999th years on the Gregorian calendar) and "third-millennium" (the 2,001st through 2,999th years on the Gregorian calendar), so on and so forth, likewise "first-millennium-bc" (years 1 BC through 999 BC on the Gregorian calendar);
...for the various centuries, we could have, e.g., the keywords "first-century" (the 1st through 99th years on the Gregorian calendar), "eleventh-century" (the 1,001st through 1,099th years on the Gregorian calendar) and "twenty-first-century" (the 2,001st through 2,099th years on the Gregorian calendar), so on and so forth, likewise "first-century-bc" (years 1 BC through 99 BC on the Gregorian calendar, counting backwards through time);
...for the various decades, we could have, e.g., the keywords "10s-decade" (the 10th through 19th years on the Gregorian calendar), "1000s-decade" (the 1,000th through 1,009th years of the Gregorian calendar), "2000s-decade" (the 2,000th through 2,009th years of the Gregorian calendar), so on and so forth, likewise "10s-decade-bc" (years 10 BC through 19 BC on the Gregorian calendar, counting backwards through time);
...for the various seasons, we could have, e.g., the keywords "spring-2022", "summer-2022", "autumn-2022" and "winter-2022";
...for the various months, we could have, e.g., the keywords "september-2022", "october-2022", "november-2022", "december-2022";
...for the various days, we could have e.g., the keyword either "31st-of-december-2022" or "31st-day-of-december-2022", whereby the 29th of February would be invalid for most years;
...for the various hours, we could have, e.g., the keywords "hour-00-on-1st-of-december-2022" through "hour-23-on-31st-of-december-2022".
...for the various minutes, we could have, e.g., the keywords "minute-00-00-on-1st-of-december-2022" through "minute-23-59-on-31st-of-december-2022".
I'm not sure what to suggest in regards to weeks, due to the alignment quagmire. Maybe it's best if they are somewhat unnumbered, meaning that only the first and last week (the seven-day period) of a month or year would be tracked, e.g., the keywords "first-week-of-october-2022", "last-week-of-october-2022", "first-week-of-december-2022" and "last-week-of-2022".
O, and one more thing. For that there first decade of Anno Domini (common era), the keyword "0s-decade" either wouldn't exist, or otherwise might only represent the first nine years on the Gregorian calendar, despite being designated as "decade" or the first ten, meaning it overlaps with the "10s-decade"; likewise with the first decade of before the Christ (before common era).
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keyword_expert
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3 years ago
A semantics/definition approach would actually help your cause.
IMDb's distinctions between "timeframe" keywords and "timespan" keywords are not grounded in the definitions of these words.
IMDb uses the word "timeframe" to indicate the time setting, or the period when a film or show is set. But that is not really the best or most accurate use of the word "timeframe."
In fact, according to the dictionary, "timeframe" (it's typically written as two words, "time frame") and "timespan" pretty much mean the same thing. But IMDb has distinguished between them, probably by happenstance rather than intentionally.
Here are the dictionary definitions of all the words in question:
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Bethanny
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3 years ago
Hi @bradley_kent -
Thanks for your suggestions, our team likes the idea very much.
We will be working on adding them to category timeframe, you will see the changes soon.
Cheers!
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3 years ago
The main use of categories is that the keywords are prioritized for display on the main title page (currently only in the app). I don't see why any keyword to do with time should be prioritized like that if they do not indicate when the story is set.
Some contributors add years or decades if they are just mentioned in dialogue. The timeframe category should not be added to such entries.
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