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Plagiarism protection

When you start checking it becomes clear that many trivia items are directly copied from Wikipedia and other online sources, which means bad quality and is against the rules.

Maybe you could use software that automatically searches for phrases and flags those with exact web matches, like schools that try to catch plagiarism.

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Peter_pbn, Champion
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EEAaO trivia
​​​A bunch of trivia items for Everything Everywhere All at Once are copied from an article.​​​
​​​https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6710474/trivia/​​​
​​​https://filmschoolrejects.com/everything-everywhere-all-at-once-commentary/​​​

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/eeaao-trivia/6411f0f1f24ba958c581c0f5

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How do you know the same person isn't writing trivia items for multiple websites?

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I was in the middle of writing my initial message to this thread when the notification for yours (much shorter and very straight to the point) popped, adrian. You beat me to it! Nice. I also pointed out something to the effect of how something may have originated on IMDb but wound up copied onto another website (say, a crowd-sourced one), perhaps not even by the same contributor. The proposed tool would only really be viable for use against those who explicitly take credit for work that originated from a well-identified somebody else. The way trivia items, goof items et al. work on IMDb, there is no attribution, unlike how IMDb's plot summary items and mini bio items work.

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@adrian​ 

I check where they appear first.

On Wikipedia and some other sites you can also see who wrote what. And often items are duplicated without regard for formatting differences in ways that make it clear that it is just copy-paste.

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The fact that the editing histories of articles on Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia sites) is public information is the best aspect of its whole infrastructure. I still wish that IMDb at least allowed us to see the dates in which other people's contributions were made, even if we wouldn't be allowed to see the handles of the contributors.

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IMDb title pages and IMDb name pages both have external sites listings, yes, and the discomfort of navigating from a trivia page to an external sites page is by no means hard to imagine. I remember when title FAQ items could accommodate hyperlinks to anywhere. That was great. When the system was migrated from the software platform from the generation before previous to the last generation software platform, such a functionality was removed. Now the hyperlinks can be only to for tconsts and nconsts, maybe cconsts, not even uconsts. How frustrating.

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Software to serve the function of detecting plagiarized work would be important to have, as it would make policing it much easier for those so interested. Just to note, the rules in place aren't or at least don't seem to be intended to cause removal of work by an original author who has shared it on multiple websites or multiple media altogether; which is a whole additional can of worms, in the sense of how detecting the occurrence of such a thing hasn't, isn't and won't be necessarily easy. I used to report plot summary items on IMDb that I thought were copied from a certain other websites, until it dawned on me the possibility that vice versa had occurred or that the same contributor, the original author, posted it on both sites, and I have no way to tell for sure.

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@jeorj_euler​ 

I didn't say IMDb had to reject all flagged items, but they could require an explanation, for example.

This post is not about deleting live items, but about avoiding poor quality items in the first place.

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If the info is valid, important and interesting, not sure what the huge problem is (if the same/similar trivia item is included in various different sites). Basically, IMDb should have all the info from every source available. Of course not 100% copy-and-paste, but most of the trivia on IMDb originates from somewhere.

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@eboy​ 

Of course not 100% copy-and-paste

You don't disagree, then.

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This is also pretty common with bio texts and plots, which is even more problematic because they put a byline and act like they wrote it themselves, when in fact they just stole it (one can easily find many examples just by checking Top Mini-Bio Writers for example).

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10 months ago

I can understand your concern about the quality and originality of trivia content.

Using software that automatically checks for exact matches with online sources, similar to plagiarism detection tools used in schools, can be a helpful approach to ensure the content's uniqueness and compliance with rules. These tools are designed to identify potential instances of copied content by comparing it against a vast database of online sources, including websites like Wikipedia.

Implementing such software in trivia creation platforms could be a proactive measure to maintain the quality of trivia content and uphold fair play. It can help prevent plagiarism and ensure that the trivia questions and answers are original and not directly copied from external sources.

Additionally, content creators should be encouraged to verify and properly credit their sources while generating trivia questions. This way, users can have confidence in the accuracy and authenticity of the information presented.

It's important to maintain high standards for content creation and to respect the intellectual property rights of others. By leveraging technology and encouraging responsible content creation practices, trivia platforms can enhance the overall user experience and promote original and engaging content.

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