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I submitted an entry for the parents’ guide - #230303-235612-998504 - but it has been declined and I have been invited to provide evidence.

There are scenes of upper body nudity. There are references to gay and lesbian sex. There is discussion of paedophile rape by priests. There are threats of sexual violence.

Which bit do you find contentious, or something parents might not want to know about before letting children watch? Given some of the comments that you have accepted in the past - “A woman burps after drinking alcohol” in the Violence section - I like to think my submission was concise and relevant. What ‘evidence’ do you think it needs?

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I posted an entry for the Parents’ Guide - #230303-235612-998504 - but it was rejected. You asked for more evidence.

What p more evidence do you require? I believe this was a concise and accurate summary of the potentially offensive language used - language that I would be shocked by in certain circumstances. Do you need me to provide a full script for you to check, as (presumably) you do when users claim “263 uses of the f-word”?

Do you want site users to contribute information as a guide to parents, or is this section purely for fundamentalist US Christians to object to blasphemy in the shocking use of “OMG” and young people wearing swimsuits to swim in?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Strong Language

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Well, there is no need here to make ambiguous reference to Christian fundamentalists based out of any particular region, even if as a rhetorical device. Simply asking why a particular submission was declined will suffice. Thank you.

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@jeorj_euler​ I felt the point was relevant because of the number of submissions about characters who “take the Lord’s name in vain”, for example.

Not a single word in that comment is profane, but it seems to apply only to Christian audiences. I imagine there may be people around the world who have no idea who ‘the Lord’ is, even if they are familiar with Jesus.

A parents’ guide is to advise parents about content they might not wish children to see. If the word ‘God’, used in exclamation, is offensive, then say the script includes ‘God’. I’m not sure how many Hindus or Jain’s would object to using someone’s name, but if the word is ‘God’ it may become clear.

It is the same principle as the Intense and Disturbing Scenes section. “There are deaths, which might be disturbing for some” is not describing a scene but the whole film. “In one scene, six people are killed by gunfire” explains what the disturbing scene is. The words “might be disturbing” are entirely irrelevant, as the comment should not be there if it is not disturbing.

The intention is not to have fifty entries in each section, but to give a short but comprehensive clue what people might expect to see.

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Yes, that's why an exact quote ought to be supplied by the contributors taking note of instances in which the name of Jesus, or any other deified historical figure, or the creator of the universe, is being used as a curse or impolite interjection. I'd agree that simply noting that a character is engaged in the act of "taking the lord's name in vain" is most certainly vague, and enough to be unacceptable. We expect to read something more along the lines of, e.g., "In numerous scenes, a little boy mutters, 'god damn it' and 'for heaven's sake'." I don't recall coming across anything so vague, as explained way above, in any of IMDb's content advisories, but surely there must be countless cases. Unfortunately, some folks feel the need to bowdlerize certain terms or phrases, as they may feel like the very act of even transcribing or quoting them is itself profane. Hell, they might even be taking precautions to avoid having any part of their communications be subject to censorship/redaction.

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I can assure you that those vague references to religious sensitivity are commonplace, as are attempts to provide a guide to parents that denies parents the guidance they seek.

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Hi @silvio_mitsubishi -

If your Parental Guide entry for "Death Factory" was incorrectly declined, please resubmit again and our editors will take another look.

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@Michelle​  I believe I have submitted it three times now, and even watched the appalling film a second time to check I made no mistakes.

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Hi @silvio_mitsubishi​ -

Was this Parental Guide update again declined after resubmitting?  If so, can you post the 18-digit submission reference number here for our staff to investigate further?

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Is it this one #230309-230346-910004?

 Ordinarily I hold on to emails about submissions that are delayed for any reason, but my inbox would be overwhelmed when suggested edits are repeatedly rejected with no meaningful explanation.