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New Parents Guide

We are pleased to announce the release of our new Parents Guide. As of today, we are improving the look-and-feel of the Parents Guide, bringing the experience up to date with other parts of IMDb.  We have also upgraded the contribution experience, utilizing our new in-line contribution form.  Over the next few weeks, we will enable contribution for all registered users, across both our full and mobile optimized websites, removing past contribution limitations.   With this change, some features which were specific to the old Parents Guides (locking, watching etc) are no longer supported. This decision was made only after careful consideration and was based on data quality, coverage, and usability.

IMDb is passionately committed to providing innovative ways for our users to engage with our content and we appreciate your continued support of IMDb.



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Nic

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3 years ago

What? Why was this done?

Anyway, how do we...
  • Control the order of the items?
  • Control whether an item is designated as a spoiler or not?
(From the looks it, any paragraph that contained a spoiler tag has been turned entirely into a spoiler. This is not desirable at all. It changes everything!)

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3 years ago

There have been many complaints about parents guides in the past. This change seems like an improvement because the feature is no longer an unchecked wiki feature.

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3 years ago

Thanks! I'm very happy to learn that the Parents Guide will no longer be a wiki(d) area but will become a section checked by staffers, just like most other sections.

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3 years ago

Nearly all of the parts of the site that are screened by IMDb staff are inferior in that such parts lack a markup feature (apart from "qv" links) and lack a preview feature to go with it. This update to the Parents Guide module retains one aspect of the markup (the key link tag) but loses all others. Even though the free-for-all system was vulnerable to a lot of abuse whereas this new system is less so, I am still disappointed for the aforementioned reasons, and this due largely to the fact that I never ever encountered a lot of rubbish in Parents Guides. I don't even know to what Peter's remark is even referring. I'd surely like to see those complaints.

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Well, you can start with this (from the Related Conversations below this topic) and continue with further searches if you wish.
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...

The new feature is not like the old contribution interface. Perhaps suggestions for improvements will be considered. Though I'm not sure why parents guides need a lot of markup.

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this due largely to the fact that I never ever encountered a lot of rubbish in Parents Guides.
At one point, there was so much abuse going on in the wiki(d) areas (which are the FAQ's and the Parents Guide) that it was necessary for IMDb to take drastic measures. It was no longer possible for just anybody to contribute to it and people had to ask IMDb permission to add to it: http://www.imdb.com/swiki/special?ParentalGuideHelp#.2.1.3

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In some cases (arguably rare), there may be a need to link to a whole other website, such as when a concept from a movie is of significance to a content advisory about the movie but also requires an explanation as to what it is, for people who might be clueless about the given concept. As of the change and thus far, presumably it is only possible to link locally and by using database entity keys (such as tt#, nm#, co#, ns# and ur#). I'm basing that off which links survived the transition from the old system to the new system. All of the local key links appear to have been kept.

While it is true that markup is not necessary, the transition from the swiki system to the submission-style system kind of failed to address the XML character entity references in the existing body of underlying data that comprised all of the parents guides. Luckily, there are very many uses of that stuff, as the swiki guides do not mention all of the markup conventions that the swiki system recognizes. I'm quite possibly the only contributor to even use such things, and I use them quite a lot.

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3 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled The new Parents Guide is terrible.

For some reason, IMDb has decided to completely change the layout on the Parents Guide that literally no one complained about. 

Adding each item individually is a pain. Sending an email every time I edit a Parents Guide is going to clutter my inbox. It's now harder to avoid spoilers than it was before (the old red tags worked much better than the "Warning!" above the spoiler paragraph which doesn't conceal the text). I'm very disappointed and think that less people will edit Parents Guides because of this.

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I agree that editing, adding or deleting each paragraph (now items) individually is a pain. The choice of making that way causes me to wonder if it has something to do with dividing the processing workload among the data-editing staff. I cannot shake the feeling that the implementers did not think this upgrade through, but maybe it is that they indeed want to make things harder for whom they believe to be trolls. I don't know. I wish that I knew, but I don't know.

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the Parents Guide that literally no one complained about.
There have been complaints about the Parents Guide since it was created by IMDb about ten years ago. I know 'cause I was one of the complainers. :)

As I've said upthread, there was a problem with trolls and there were always some edit wars going on. Both those problems will now be gone.

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Perhaps most of these problems were solved with the previous restriction of access, but it makes sense to try IMDb's more traditional approach: access for everyone with processing to catch errors.

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3 years ago

I'm kinda fine with how the New Parents Guide has become. It's just the fact I'm still somewhat unfamiliar with the new setup, and still have much to learn. According to my experience as a massive IMDb user: In the previous Parents Guide you've got everything done in seconds, but now you'll have to submit whatever parental guide you write, and wait until they eventually get approved. So far, most of my submissions have been approved in just a few seconds.

And yes, I have seen some rubbish stuff in some parental guides, but that was rarely. In one case, I also remember the fact someone had spammed some parental guidances with links to an illegal streaming site, but that was stopped before it could go on for too long.

Another thing is the amount of "items". Here I'll have to agree with Sushi Xtreme. For example, if I watch an action-movie with lots of violence, I could have written every violent scenes in the "Violence/Gore" section in one time. Now, I'll have to submit each item individually, and have to delete e-mails every time I've checked on them. But I too wonder if this decision to change the Parents Guide like this was to reduce the chance of trolling, but I don't know. The red spoiler tags worked so much better for me too. But again, I still have something to learn with the New Parents Guide.

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3 years ago

Thanks Nic. This looks great.

We can find the PG option under a specific title here:

1. Open the title page.



2. At the top menu bar click on 'MORE'.



3. At the bottom of the 'STORYLINE' column, you'll see the 'Parents Guide' option.



4. Click on it and the PG page will open.

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3 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Parents Guide.

I hate the new Parents Guide. It is taking forever for the changes I make to post. What is up with it? I have submitted chages for The Great Outdoors and Meatballs. How long does it take for the update to post? I wish you would have not changed the way it's done. It was much better with the old parents guide.

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It is taking forever for the changes I make to post.
From now on, staffers are actually gonna check the submissions made to the Parent's Guide. So yes, it will take (a bit) longer for your submissions to make it online, but the overall quality of the Parent's Guides will increase.

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I doubt that the quality of the guides will increase.

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There seem to be certain 'trigger words' that stop some submissions from being approved. For example, "in one episode"/"in some episodes". Trying to use either one of these phrases so far has resulted in my submission never appearing, while all of my others have been approved almost instantly.

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3 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled parent guide.

When I first started using IMBd it was for the parent guide which prided itself on presenting objective raw data, allowing parents to interpret for themselves whether the movie is suitable for their children or not.  It has become a common occurrence to see commentators subjectively describe gore and violence as 'not too bad'  and frightening scenes as 'relatively mild'.  I would like to see some moderation of peoples comments to ensure just the plain info is shared and not the commentators interpretation.

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I would like to see less subjectivity as well, but this update is not going to help with that. The staff mostly only approves, declines or ignores user submissions, seemingly rarely (if ever) making due adjustments on their own.