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My submissions with legitimate information are being marked as "unable to verify"

Hello,

I have been trying to submit updates to cast lists of films and tv shows (both cast members that are rumored and confirmed) and have even submitted them with evidence showing that they are either confirmed or rumored and it still gets marked as "unable to verify".

I am not providing just random evidence either, I am providing links to articles (oftentimes articles from reputable sources) that confirm the casting or confirm the rumor within the evidence section of the submission, such that whoever is looking at submissions can take the link provided and look at it and see that the link confirms the casting or confirms the rumor. I also took a look at the "upload evidence" feature, but that seems a bit inconvenient to the person submitting the thing as it appears they are only able to submit screenshots and then have to log back in to attach it and everything whereas placing a link that contains the evidence is much easier on the submitters. Is there some way I can for sure no matter what get the submissions approved without having to go through the hassle of using the "upload evidence" feature since the evidence I am providing by submitting the links shows the confirmation?

This isn't the first time I've had issues like this before either, long before even the "provide evidence to help with this submission" box was a thing I had issues getting legitimate submissions through the system.

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Hi @dragonicswordhunter -

Can we have your 18-digit submission reference?

Thanks!

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You sure can, there's actually more than 1 submission in question here, so I'll be providing a few, and at least the most recent versions of the submissions.

240226-184214-595000

240222-135828-972000

240216-153929-036000

These are the most recent versions of the submissions, I have also tried doing the submissions in different ways to try and get them submitted (things like submitting without character name listed, submitting to final episodes or submitting to all episodes because they are rumored or confirmed to be in the project but it's unclear which episodes they are attached to, putting rumored in the character name slot to make it more clear to the person looking at the submission that the rumored ones are being submitted as rumored and not as confirmed, etc.) all the ways I've tried submitting them have had very little success even though they are legitimate.

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@dragonicswordhunter​ Hi!

Google search pages are not helpful as evidence, we need news articles announcing the casting from official sources.

Thanks!

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Ok, only one of them has a Google search page though, the others do have articles listed on them, and again this is only the most recent version of these submissions. I have submitted versions of these with the same information but either nothing at all in the "provide help for approving this article" box or actual articles and other such proofs and they were still marked as "unable to verify".

Also, not all of these submissions are for confirmed casting, many of them are only for rumored casting, which I have marked on the submissions as (rumored) in the attribute box. These rumors are ones that are very well known and discussed a lot within the fandom and community, among other places, so it's not just random wishful thinking on my part or anything like that, and for many of them I provide articles that confirm the rumor.

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@dragonicswordhunter​ Hi! None of the articles provided were official either. Rumored casting is reserved for cases where the person may be considered for this project or is possibly in the running with other candidates, but the information is unverified, but this again, even if it's only the possibility, has to come from an official source.

Thanks for understanding!

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Strange how IMDB doesn't even count articles from it's own news section as official, many of which were provided, as well as reputable sources like IGN and Entertainment Weekly.

I am using rumored in terms of them being considered for the project in terms of them being in discussion as possibly being in the project but it's unclear whether they for sure are or not, hence they are rumored. You aren't going to get something from Marvel.com for example saying "these actors are rumored" because that's not what that site does, the best you can hope to get is articles from media news sites and such talking about the rumors and such, which I have provided and have provided in the past even before this issue and it has been accepted.

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@dragonicswordhunter​ Just as I'm curious person.

Why are you making contribution if the person is not talk about in a article by a official from the movie?

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Hello dragonicswordhunter,

As mentioned by Bethany, the provided evidence does not officially confirm and verify the credits that you are trying to add. You are free to re submit the credits when valid evidence can be found and we can verify that the credits are officially confirmed. As of right now, the provided evidence only mentions possibilities from what can be the cast/crew for the titles.

You can find more details and help in our Help Articles

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@Fran​ I'm not sure what's not being understood, many of the credits I'm trying to add are rumors and are marked as rumors, I'm not trying to add them as confirmed members of the cast, I'm doing my due diligence and making sure the ones that are rumors are marked as rumors and providing proof for the ones that I can that those rumors are actual rumors and not just me trying to add things just because I want to. You can literally pull up every single article that I list in those submissions mentioned above and read the articles and you will see that is the case.

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@Jimmi1996​ I'll try and answer based on what I understand your trying to say. I'm not trying to add them as an official cast member, if you take a look at the submission you will see most of them are marked as rumored, so I'm not providing articles of the creators of the project talking about it because those can't and don't exist as they are currently nothing more than rumors, and I've done my best to try and mark them as rumors in the submissions as well as provide evidence for many of them that they are rumors and not just wishful fan theories and such. the one that is not marked as a rumor I provided a link mentioning the official casting, yes it may not be from the projects official website or be an article of the creators themselves saying it in their own words, but it is a 3rd party reliable site which is marked on the submissions help article as a valid form of evidence for these sorts of things, especially if word from the creators is currently unavailable.

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Then you misunderstand me! Which is strange because I thought I was pretty clear. I understand that you not trying to add them as official cast members. So my question is why spend a lot of energy and time adding actors to a movie / series for people who have only been discussed on 3rd party site?

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@Jimmi1996​ they have not only been discussed on a 3rd party site, they have been discussed on multiple 3rd party sites and discussed among the fandom and community, I only link to one instance of it in my submissions as to not overwhelm the people reading the submissions and to show that there is evidence for it out there. It's not a lot of time or energy for me. I'm trying to get them added because it's relevant information, sure they may not end up being official, but there is a high likelyhood that they could be, and instead of others having to go through and add them all at once when the project gets released and whatever (which is often busier and more hectic and such), it seems easier on everyone to have that information already present and then go in and do minor changing later. Different reasons like that, relevancy, high likelyhood, easier for the community, etc.

This version of your question was much more clear as to what you were trying to ask, it was how you worded it previously that caused the confusion.

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The credits being added are not valid, therefore we are unable to approve the submissions, feel free to re submit the credits when valid official confirmation is released. 

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@Fran​ you're still communicating about it as though I'm trying to submit most of them as official confirmed members of cast, which I'm not doing, I'm submitting most of them as rumored and have them marked as such, they are as valid as rumors possibly can be, and last time I checked IMDB still accepts rumored castings on their listings. I am also providing as valid proof as can be had for rumors right now from reputable sources, even some links from IMDB's own news section.

For the one that is a confirmed casting that is in question here, I provide a link from a reputable source confirming the casting. Sure, it may not be a 1st party article like it seems you're wanting, but it is a reputable 3rd party article, which the link you provided of the help articles says is a valid form of evidence.

It's really coming across like everyone here is assuming bad faith on my part. Either that or there's the assumption that I'm wrong because no one has taken the time to actually look at what I'm saying because they just automatically believe it isn't true or whatever.