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My submissions keep getting denied

My background credit submissions keep getting denied, and there is no mechanism in the initial submission for me to provide proof of my work (I have paystubs). But once they have been denied, there is also no way for me to submit proof. I also have credited work, so I meet that criteria. In any regard, The policies regarding uncredited work in recent years are both difficult to navigate and highly discriminatory towards background actors, both union and non-union.

The denials in question are:

#210206-223629-334408

#210206-225218-736108

#210206-223134-726808

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5 years ago

Hi, Kathryn Henzler. Welcome to the forum of/for the IMDb Community! An IMDb customer service will be better able to assist you if you provide the 18-digit reference number of the most recent declined submission of yours concerning this filmography addition. The evidence you've provided is fine and, to a degree, necessary, but it would be best supplemented with a screenshot of the scene in which the character you've portrayed in the pertinent episode appears, or at the very least the notification of the corresponding point in the running time of the episode. If you're nowhere to be found at all in the content of the show then the IMDb data editors should decline to accept the filmography item in question. Otherwise, there may be no merit in declining the item, but patience is the key here.

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5 years ago

IMDb only accepts background/extra as valid cast credits if they appear in the actual credits. I've asked before where uncredited background/extras go but have not got a satisfactory answer.

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/cast-acting-credits-guidelines/GH3JZC74FVYKKFMD#

  • We will accept "background" or "extra" if that's how the credit appears on screen, but "background", "extra" or "bit-part" will not be accepted as a character name on the title if the role does not receive an on-screen credit. If that is the case the character name should include a description of the part - Woman with Dog, for instance - and (uncredited) in the 'attribute' box. But see below - they must be recognizable.

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I believe that part of the guide refers to character name (which can’t be ”Extra” if the role is uncredited, it should be ”Man on the Bus” or something like that). If the person is clearly visible on the screen and appears in the final cut of film, IMDb could accept these type of ”uncredited” roles. Case-by-case, I guess.

Long story short: Paystubs and contracts doesn’t necessarily prove that the person is visible on the screen. Screenshots from the film/episode are probably needed.

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I have found that it is literally impossible to tell whether most uncredited people actually are visible on screen. There's two reasons really: even the shortest shows are around 20 minutes and that is a lot of scanning for someone and most background casts don't pay for IMDbPro so there are no head shots.

If someone enters a credit as "Man on the Bus", I'll move it to uncredited. If it is just Extra/Background and they aren't in the cast that way, I'll delete it because IMDb won't accept them anymore. (There was a time when they were accepted as I still see some Background/Extras listed in older movies, especially).

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Yeah, I used to have no problem whatsoever getting my background credits accepted.

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O, really? When was that?

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From 2010 to as recently as 2019.

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Okay. There is a chance that one of your earlier contributions was found to be inaccurate, problematic or not adequately aligned with IMDb submission guidelines, which is a kind of situation that may cause the IMDb data editors to experience doubt about the factual accuracy of your contributions. However, maybe the IMDb title page involved with your credit is being treated with extra scrutiny, or maybe the recent submission was being handled by a new or occasional data editor.

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5 years ago

Kathryn Henzler, hello again. I would like to reference as recent post by one Maria Marinaro, in which a screenshot and an identifying remark was presented concerning an appearance of hers in an episode of a television series: /conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/trying-to-get-my-contribution-credit-approved-it-got-denied-but-i-want-to-add-proof-to-my-claim-a-video-and-photo-its-for-the-undoing/602d5823ed9dc017691e085c.

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5 years ago

Thanks all for your suggestions. I will add screenshots! This is just very different from the policies that were in place over a decade ago when I first started having background credits. It's kind of sad how things have become.

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5 years ago

The problem I'm still having is that there is no spot on the initial submission to include all of this evidence, which could have circumvented this problem entirely.

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5 years ago

Hi khenzler -

 

Regarding your updates:

 

#210206-223629-334408: Unfortunately, this credit is not eligible as your role is background and you are not recognizable on-screen.

 

#210206-225218-736108 and #210206-223134-726808: these episode cast credits have now been approved and should be listed live on the site shortly.

 

Cheers!