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Wed, Mar 17, 2021 11:23 PM

Merge requests stuck in pending Hell...

I know for a fact that I submitted these merges WEEKS ago, and at least once... when I started to clean up the entry for chat show "Wogan", there were over 140 "unknown" episodes, and I created a spreadsheet to keep track of which ones I'd submitted.

There are still four, and all four have been submitted at least once: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083504/episodes?season=-1

None of them are difficult to verify, as all four are dated, and I've added the dates to every single episode of Wogan from BBC Genome.

Another issue with this show is that I got an episode deleted after much investigation and proof, etc. (An episode was cancelled at last minute due to the gulf war and the cited guests rearranged for later).

The episode was 11.9. Which now means I have to renumber 11.10 - 11.139 so they're all one number lower. Even as a complete nerd who's updating a chat show he doesn't even like that much, can I really justify submitting 129 renumber requests?

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1 m ago

Hi MovieCat -

 

Regarding the four Unknown episodes, to clarify, are you trying to merge them into other existing numbered episodes, or are you just trying to add new order numbers for these unknown listings?

 

With regard to the renumbering of the Season 11 "Wogan" episodes 11.10 - 11.139, I have filed a ticket for our editorial team to make the ordering adjustment, they will take a look as soon as they can.

 

Cheers!

MovieCat

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@Michelle Thank you Michelle.

Regarding the four unknown episodes, then every episode exists, so I put them through to be merged.

They should be merged with the following numbers:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182746/?ref_=ttep_ep1 = Episode #9.71

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0900313/?ref_=ttep_ep2 = Episode 9.91

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1487820/?ref_=ttep_ep3 = Episode 9.92

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1487821/?ref_=ttep_ep4 = Episode 9.93

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@MovieCat I've just submitted them for you without any BBC Genome links, so I might have to submit them again.

You should only wait around a maximum of 5 days for name changes or merges, just like I do, as they're nearly always accepted or declined by then.

With production titles, they add the correct titles to the alternative titles section incorrectly a lot of the time as a new title, without any attributes, so you end up having to delete the incorrect alternative title, and resubmit the name change again.

It can sometimes take between 3 and 5 attempts to get a title corrected.

However with episode title corrections, and episode merges, they're usually quick and simple.

You can keep track of all your contributions, especially merges, name corrections and things like image additions and tags (which don't appear in the normal edit history) here:

https://contribute.imdb.com/contributions/history

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MovieCat

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Thank you @daniel_francis_gardecki, I don't normally have this issue, it's normally fairly quick.

But not with these last four...

MovieCat

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1 m ago

Just one to go!

I wish I'd been enough of a nerd to note how many there were at the start... ISTR it was at least 150.

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@MovieCat I noticed they were accepted 2 or 3 hours ago, and double checked to see if the 4th one had been accepted which it hasn't.

So I went to BBC Genome to get a couple of links from the standard search along with the guide itself, and noticed that there's no information whatsoever about who appeared in the episode on the 21st of June 1989 or if it had the title Licence to Thrill.

There is however a couple of videos which say the James Bond themed episode was broadcast in July 1989 not June 1989, so even if it is accepted it might need moving again to some time in July, if the specific information about the James Bond episode can be found. 

Wogan James Bond Licence To Kill Special (1989) on Vimeo

Licence To Thrill - James Bond Special - YouTube

I checked the rest of the June and July 1989 episodes on BBC Genome, but most of them don't have cast lists.

I've had a quick look through the episodes on BFI Collections, but they're mainly just July episodes and only one other person other than Terry Wogan himself is mentioned in those July 1989 episodes, out of the 191 total episodes listed.

But knowing BFI Collections they'll probably have another couple of pages for Wogan containing more episodes.

Collections Search | BFI | British Film Institute

Plus I've also Googled things like:

1 - "Wogan" "Timothy Dalton"

2 - "Wogan" "Timothy Dalton" "Bond"

3 - "Wogan" "Timothy Dalton" "Desmond Llewelyn" "Bond"

etc

And I still can't find any specific dates, titles or cast lists anywhere.

Therefore I suspect that could why it hasn't been accepted yet, but I doubt it.

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MovieCat

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This is the frustrating thing, in that I back up the vast majority of my changes with evidence - then when it doesn't get accepted, I have to go back through it all again to "prove" something I've already proven.

I get the guest lists (Genome is pretty much useless in this regard, as the Radio Times had joke write-ups, presumably because the publish date was too far away) from archive newspapers.

I've just resubmitted it again, with a section of the newspaper listing, along with a screenshot of the changed title: https://ibb.co/HK9b9B0

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Providing the same proof more than once is not necessary. The idea is to come to this forum to request the "declined" status be foregone in favor of the "approved" status, based upon the content of the explanation fields associated with particular database items.

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20 d ago

It feels like the end of an era, as now ALL the "unknown" episodes of Wogan have been merged!!! Yay!!!

I'd never intended to do this. I'd never intended to add the dates to every episode. But I did that.

I'd never intended to add the guest list for all the episodes (over 1300 of them). But I'm in the middle of doing that.

This was a middle of the road chat show that even the host seemed to hate at times. It was a time-passer at best, with very rare exceptions. (A guest claiming to be the son of God was a highlight.)

Why am I doing this? God knows. I think I've lost the plot in lockdown.

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@MovieCat Well done! Middle of the road or not, ideally all episodes of all chat shows would be listed on IMDb. Having added quite some episodes for several Dutch chat shows, I know how time-consuming it is, so thanks for having done this!

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@Marco I think the hard part is that not all the guests are listed in newspapers, so what we can get is just a vague overview until the actual episodes appear on YouTube... which they do, frequently.