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Keyword Problems: Well, here I go.....
I've been sitting on this for a long time, but I truly believe that many of the problems with keywords originate with one, two, three... just a few contributors who keep ignoring the guidelines and are "going on their merry way" because they are not aware that they continue to make the same mistakes again and again. Some of this may be due to language differences, but may just be that they have gotten into a habit of submitting certain incorrect keywords and just continue to do so. I realize that keywords have a low priority, but I also fault the keyword list manager(s) for continuing to accept keywords that do not meet guidelines and decisions made on this page.
I could give you many, many examples, but I'll start with just a few:
At lease twice on this page, there have been discussions about "looking-at-self-in-mirror" being incorrect while "looking-at-oneself-in-a-mirror" is the preferred keyword. Yet, "looking-at-self-in-mirror" keeps getting submitted -- and accepted.
"drinking-from-a-bottle" is the preferred keyword, yet someone keeps submitting "drinking-from-bottle" and "drinking-from-the-bottle" -- and usually ALL THREE are being submitted and repetitiously accepted for the same title.
There continue to be many duplications. "cigarette-smoking" is the preferred keyword, yet someone keeps submitting this as well as the lesser duplicate "smoking-a-cigarette."
I understand that IMDb is working on intercepting plural keywords, but the guidelines are very clear that singulars are preferred. (There are, of course, always some exceptions.). It's "failed-expectation,"not "failed-expectations."
Relatedly, there seems to be an attempt by a couple very valued contributors to try to circumvent the guideline preferring singulars over plurals. As a partially hypothetical example, someone(s) keep submitting, as keywords, "multiple-deaths," "death-more-than-once," "death-multiple-times," "more-than-one-death," etc., and these "plurals" keep getting accepted. If this continues, we could soon see "multiple-soldiers" rather than, or in addition to, "army."
I could give many more examples (and may in the future), but I would like to know what other contributors and the staff think. I am assuming that there is no way for a contributor to contact other contributors about such problems, but perhaps the staff could intercede.




vinc17
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5 years ago
Well, when I submit keywords, I never create a new keyword when there is already one equivalent (fortunately, there is a warning in the interface, but I usually search for existing keywords first). IMHO, editors should refuse new keywords in such a case, and perhaps new keywords should automatically corrected when this makes sense (there should probably be a database for such automatic corrections).
BTW, I've just submitted a question concerning fireworks (plural) vs firework (singular), as the plural is used in general (according to my dictionaries) and in the IMDb, fireworks has much more occurrences than firework (1258 vs 216). I was surprised to see my submission fireworks changed to firework in the current status.
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Peter_pbn
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5 years ago
The previous thread was about keywords with "one's-self" instead of "oneself". No mentions of "looking-at-self-in-mirror" are found.
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Michelle
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5 years ago
Hi bradley_kent -
Thanks for your report. I have cleaned up the keyword violations and inconsistencies you reported in this thread, the changes should be live on the site shortly.
I have also rerouted these keywords in our Update form to prevent any further additions of invalid keywords from being listed on the site.
Thanks again!
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