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Jack Nicholson credit declined

Considering that video game Trover Saves the Universe (2019) is the only acting appearance of Jack Nicholson so far since 2010, I'm pretty sure it falls under special circumstances under which uncredited voice acting is still listed in the Actor filmography (although that rule ceased to be mentioned in guidelines, I was told it still applies). 

It is the only declined feature in #220819-054908-102000, despite there is a proof link (interview with a producer) and all other features regarding the fact of his appearance such as two trivia items were greenlit. 

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Hi @nikolay_yeriomin -

I can see that you provided the shacknews.com interview article to accompany your credit request, however, as it seems the easter egg cameo has yet to be discovered and there is public speculation of the accuracy of the voice work - we cannot verify the existence and list the credit until we have credible verification (ie. the easter egg cameo is found and/or the voice work is verified by Mr. Nicholson).

I hope this helps clarify why we cannot accept the credit currently based on the interview alone.

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Hello @Michelle​! I am more than fine with this consensus: more motivation for fans to finally find it after all these years. :)

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2 years ago

Hello nikolay_yeriomin,

Following our Cast/Acting Credits guidelines, there must be an on-screen credit, in order to have this credit listed on the site, uncredited voice credits are not allowed, which is why we ended up rejecting the submission.

If the credit is on the on-screen credits, feel free to post a screengrab, and we can validate the request.

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@Fran​ Let me clarify this: so the rules were changed and now even high-profile cases like Quentin Tarantino's voice cameos in Alias (2004), Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004), Diary of the Dead (2007), The Hateful Eight (2015), Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood (2019), ; Mahershala Ali in Eternals (2021) (as discussed and approved in this thread); or Bryan Cranston in The Stand (2021) should be moved to "Additional Crew" or even deleted?.. 

Because, if so, it opens a whole new rabbit hole of both edit wars and corrections. 

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While it could possibly be eligible for "high profile exception", even your trivia items say still nobody found it for 3 years, since the game came out. So there is no solid proof for it actually, like a clip of his voice from the game. While I was looking for it I found even a reddit board deleted a thread about it for being "unverifiable" (I think it was your thread, not sure). So I think even if a place like Reddit deletes it for being unverifiable, we shouldn't expect lower standards from IMDb.

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@mbmb​ I kinda sense you looking down on both me and Reddit and you really shouldn't. For many reasons, one of them being civil discussion. I spend some portion of my time on Reddit, yes. I am also a PhD. Neither of that merits any kind of special negative or positive connotation. Every place is "a place like" for someone. I saw people utterly dismissing years upon years of research despite them having neither credentials nor experience to do so. 

Not sure why my Reddit post on "Today I Learned" was deleted with reason being "not supported" considering that I've attached the interview with Justin Roiland. Feels like "we can't trust anyone" moment.

Probably makes sense to finally wait for someone to find that Easter egg in the game before adding the cast listing, not arguing that.  

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I didn't say "a place like Reddit" as something negative, it was merely about it being a social platform where users could share anything, seeing it was even deleted from there (from somewhere where users could be more "free") was the reason I said it (and like I said I wasn't sure if it was even you, similarity between the post there and trivia item made me think it could be your post)

It was about it having "more freedom", not it being "a bad place"

All I wanted to point out was the possibility of it not being there if nobody could find it for 3 years.

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@mbmb​ Sorry, I tend to get a bit defensive at times and it's a bad habit considering that I also become very pessimistic over a few recent years... 

Is my writing style really that bad/recogniazble that there are instant similarities that could be drawn between the two? 

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@nikolay_yeriomin​ it's OK, sorry for not being so clear.

Is my writing style really that bad/recogniazble that there are instant similarities that could be drawn between the two?

I don't think two posts you posted to two different places being recognizable means your writing style is bad, how different could it be after all, the information is same :)

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@Fran​ 

This has always been a terrible IMDb rule, especially for things that are easily verifiable or for TV series. There are many cases where actors are not credited in TV series but their voice appears (voice mail, phone calls, etc) and they are a regular recurring or main characters. There is literally no reason to exclude these credits.

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@adrian​ I agree. This is also the reason why a lot of director cameos done via voice work are absent from IMDb despite years of research confirming them as true.