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It's Such a Beautiful Day to please help me solve this problem

I've tried to submit this correction many times but every time it gets rejected for some reason.

In 2012, Don Herztfeldt took his series of three short films about a character named Bill who suffers from a psychological breakdown (Everything Will Be OK (2006), I Am So Proud of You (2008), It's Such a Beautiful Day (2011)) and recut them into one feature length film (It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012)). For some reason, even though all of the credits for crew positions are there, the feature film version's IMDb page doesn't have any cast info. The cast info can easily be found by looking at the IMDb pages of the three short films it was cut from. (There's not much of a cast to speak of; just Don Hertzfeldt himself as the narrator and brief role for Sarah Cushman as the doctor in the third installment). Apparently, IMDb doesn't consider IMDb to be a reliable source, because every time I try to copy the same credits over to the feature version, my contribution gets rejected.

My latest attempt is here by the way: #240405-165547-772000  

It's been a while since I've seen the film, but I don't think the feature version is split into segments; I recall it being told as one continuous narrative, which it is. I'm pretty sure my memory is correct, because I specifically remember how I couldn't find the third installment available anywhere in a form that was separate from the feature film version. When I chose to just watch the feature version instead of searching for it any longer, I remember not being able to tell exactly the third installment began. Anyway, to get to the point, I think in this case the cast credits shouldn't have "segment Everything Will Be Ok", etc, listed as attributes, since in the reedited version the individual "segments" are not separated.

Maybe there's something wrong with the way I've been trying to format the contribution and it just keeps getting automatically declined, but I give up trying to figure out what it is. I'm basically just copying the way it looks on the other titles.

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6 months ago

This is a standard IMDB rule when things are re-edited into a different format, they allow the shell listing but don't allow the credits to be added to it, only the original releases get the credits and they are connected to the film in the connections section.

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6 months ago

This film should never have been deleted and that fact that it was is an utter travesty. I checked before, and the film had:

- 16K votes

- 35.2K people had it added to their watchlist.

- At least 999 user-created lists included it.

- 75 user reviews, 32 critic reviews.

- 2 awards nominations that were specific to this particular title

Now, I can't even edit any of my lists that had this title on it without getting an error message. Somebody with an ability to see reason, please take control of this situation. Restore this title if at all possible.

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6 months ago

A title used by thousands of people on IMDb has been deleted for completely asinine reasons. Now, I can't edit any of my lists that happened to have included that title. When I click on "edit", I get this message:

The title in question is this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2396224/

This is what it looked like in 2022: https://web.archive.org/web/20231228073006/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2396224/

The film has been on IMDb for over ten years. It as accumulated over 16k votes, 75 user reviews, it has been added to over 32k users' watchlists, and it has been included in at least 999 user-created lists. Presumably, every one of those list creators right now is having the same problem that I'm having.

All of this is apparently my fault for daring to complain about a slight, comparatively very insignificant data discrepancy. The one and only employee who engaged with this post decided to "solve" the problem by deleting the title. I feel like I brought my dog to the vet for a sore toe and the vet just took out a gun and shot it. This is worse than anything I could have possibly imagined would happen as a result of me creating that post. I'm sorry, everyone.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Can't edit list after title deleted for dubious reasons

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6 months ago

So, hi. I have NO idea where I am, or what happened here on this page this week but, I, as a person who is obsessed with the order of his logged movies in imdb realized that this one movie I watched last year is lost. I've been trying to figure out why for the last hour and I found this page. I don't know who this timothy guy or this bethanny girl think they are, but I know that you can't just delete a widely-known feature film because you think it is not one. I don't even know if it comes back to the database, my date of rating it will come back but I still demand it to comeback. Congratulations on being this toxic people. I hope you have such an ugly day.

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@Witchillo​ Buddy, I’m on your side, I’m just as outraged about this as you are. I had no intention of causing this to happen. If it makes you feel any better, I have been having a very ugly day every day for the past week due to worrying about this whole situation.

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6 months ago

Just curious - 

Does the combined "It's Such a Beautiful Day" differ meaningfully from things like the various Spike & Mike anthologies that are in the database (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102966/reference/) or the annual Oscar Shorts entries (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2546294/reference/)?

It's been too long since I watched any of these to remember if any original material (e.g. new opening/closing credits or interstitials) was included.

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@sienel​ It's different in that "It's Such a Beautiful Day" is not an anthology, even though it combines three shorts. The three combined shorts make up a trilogy that tells a complete story about a single character. The feature version is edited seamlessly together such that the viewer cannot tell where one installment ends and the next one begins.

It also differs in that the feature version is (or was) the most widely seen version of this work in the database, overshadowing the shorts that were released originally. A similar case can be found in Disney's "The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh", which also made up of stories originally released as shorts, but gained greater notoriety after being edited into a feature. There were a lot more than 43 votes on "It's Such a Beautiful Day" before being deleted.

The feature version of "It's Such a Beautiful Day" was named by several critics as one of the best movies of 2012. It is represented by a single Wikipedia page. Most other movie websites list it as a feature film with a 2012 release date. If anything, it had a much, much better case for being a valid IMDb entry than the two examples you named above.

I haven't seen the Spike & Mike anthology you refer to, but I did go to one of those Oscar Shorts theatrical presentations back in 2019. Having a feature version of that title is a lot more convenient when making lists than not having one. I remember they did have their own title cards and opening titles for that one.

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@timothy_gray_el34lojg1aih1​ Yup this is the main point of interest, it's all one seamless story, not an anthology of three stories

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6 months ago

@Bethanny: If the situation with the feature version of It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012) is as Timothy describes it, then I would agree with him that the 2012 film ought to be restored to the database as it was before this thread started. Deleting the film from the database altogether sounds like it was an incorrect decision. Note that the feature has received a significant number of reviews as a feature: see the Rotten Tomatoes page at https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/its_such_a_beautiful_day/reviews.

How the credits for the feature should be listed is a separate issue; I don't have enough information to comment on that.

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I take back everything I said about the credit situation on this title. It's not important. All I want now is for things to go back to the way they were before I created this stupid post. Nobody was complaining about the situation except for me. This title was not causing problems and should never have been deleted.

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6 months ago

Hi all,

It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012 - Don Hertzfeldt) has been deleted from the IMDb database.

Here is the tt number and link, these no longer work, but I have them in my own records

tt2396224

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2396224/

This movie was in:

  • IMDb's Horror top 50
  • IMDbs Animation top 50
  • IMDb's Independent top 50
  • IMDb's Sci-fi top 50
  • IMDb's 2010s top 50
  • IMDb's Comedy top 50
  • IMDb's Mystery top 50
  • IMDb's Thriller top 50

I think this error is the result of Hertzfeldt having made both a short and a feature film with the same name, so likely someone noticed there is a 2011 short and a 2012 feature with the same name, thought they were duplicate entries and decided to delete the 2012 entry. 

Here is the link and tt for the short film:

tt2078648

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2078648/

Essentially Hertzfeldt made three shorts of the same story and edited them altogether into a feature. This feature was released in cinemas, I personally went and saw the feature. This is the cinema I saw it in back in 2013, luckily the listing still exists: Cube: It's Such A Beautiful Day + The Don Hertzfeldt Experience (cubecinema.com)

This film is listed in the top 250 films from this century by the website They Shoot Pictures TSPDT - The 21st Century's 250 Most Acclaimed Films (by Ranking 250-1) (theyshootpictures.com) #186

Please can this title be restored.

Thanks for reading,

Matt

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Significant movie has been deleted from IMDb - It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012 - Don Hertzfeldt)

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timothy_gray_el34lojg1aih1
Sunday, April 7th, 2024
It's Such a Beautiful Day to please help me solve this problem
I've tried to submit this correction many times 
but every time it gets rejected for some reason

In 2012, Don Herztfeldt took his series of three short films about a character named Bill who suffers from a psychological breakdown

Everything Will Be OK (2006)

I Am So Proud of You (2008)

It's Such a Beautiful Day (2011)

and recut them into one feature length film

It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012)   ........


https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/its-such-a-beautiful-day-to-please-help-me-solve-this-problem/661220ef2611fd1b79b9d897

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It's Such a Beautiful Day (2012)
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2396224/

Saved 119 times between September 28, 2012 and April 6, 2024.

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6 months ago

We have just restored the title and we will investigate what happened.  Sorry for the inconvenience. 

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@Col_Needham​ Thank you.

Will the title also be restored to all of the user lists it had appeared on previously? Or will we need to manually add the title back onto any lists of ours it was on?

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@Fergenaprido​ I believe it should be restored automatically. 

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@Col_Needham As of yet, they have not. No User lists are displayed on the main title page, and the URL does not work: https://www.imdb.com/lists/tt2396224/

I also checked some lists of my own that I knew I had it on, and it's not (yet) showing up.

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Now all the ratings have disappeared as well. They were there when the title was first restored, but now are wiped. The reviews have been retained, however. Hopefully this can be fixed as well.

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@Fergenaprido​ Thanks — we are looking into this. 

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@Col_Needham Ratings, Lists, and Polls still haven't been reinstated - only new ones added since the page was restored are displaying. Reviews from before and all other associated data are there, however.

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@Fergenaprido​ Thanks, yes, the appropriate trouble tickets are still open with the appropriate teams.  Sorry for the delay.  In the meantime additional steps have been taken to prevent this from happening again (and to be clear, it has never happened on anywhere like this scale ever before in 30+ years, hence it taking longer to recover). 

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6 months ago

I would like to formally apologize to everyone involved for my role in instigating and escalating this situation. In particular, I would like to apologize to @Bethanny, who did not deserve to be insulted and harangued just for disagreeing with me, and @VonPunk, who was only trying to help. I hope we can all put this behind us and get along better in the future. Also, a big thank you to @Col_Needham for resolving the situation. I hope everyone has a lovely rest of the weekend.