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Information for the new Sweetwater (2023) movie is incorrect

Edit: When I posted this, I didn't proofread it carefully, so I've changed the wording to accurately reflect the historical record, which was previously unclear.  My apologies to anyone who read my previously incorrect account.

The description for the film Sweetwater read, "Hall of Famer, Nat 'Sweetwater' Clifton, makes history as the first African American to sign an NBA contract, forever changing how the game of basketball is played."  Mr. Clifton was not the first African-American to sign an NBA contract, nor was he the first African-American to play in an NBA game.  Harold Hunter was the first African-American to sign an NBA contract.  However, Mr. Hunter was cut from the team during the pre-season and never played in the league.  Mr. Clifton signed his contract less than one month after Mr. Hunter and made his debut on an NBA roster on May 24, 1950, though four days later, Earl Lloyd made his debut for the Washington Capitols, making him the first African-American to play in the NBA.

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jmg: Sweetwater (2023) is a dramatized film. Does the film portray Nat Clifton as the first black player to sign an NBA contract (even if that wasn't true in real life)? The question is whether the film is in error, which would be listed on IMDb in the Goofs section, or whether the IMDb plot outline is in error, in which case the plot outline should be corrected.

Also, in that era, the NBA season ran from October through April, so there were no games in May. 

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I have no idea what's in the film, as I haven't seen it.  Regardless of what's in the film, the description is inaccurate, b/c they're depicting a real-life event but making incorrect claims about it in the description of it.  May 24, 1950 was the date that he signed his contract, where he became a member of the team.  As I stated, he never played in a game.  I'll edit the post to make it clearer.

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@jmg999​ To be clear, Harold Hunter is the player who you are referring to who never played in an NBA game. Nat "Sweetwater" Clifton played for eight seasons in the NBA, appearing in over 500 games with the Knicks and Pistons.

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@jmg999​ If the movie portrays it as the first, then there is no issue with the plot outline because it describes the plot of the movie, not the real life. I checked the movie's official site and plot description there is same as well, so it seems there is no issue.

I don't think it would qualify as a goof either, because of the following rules, it's a movie, not a documentary, it doesn't have to reflect reality perfectly.

Artistic licence: Please allow for artistic licence on the part of the film makers. Most movies and TV shows are not meant to perfectly reflect reality as you experience it.

In movies "based on real events" we also tend to disallow discrepancies between fact and fiction because these changes are usually made for dramatic reasons. You may wish to submit these differences to the trivia section instead..

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3 years ago

Wikipedia states the actual historical facts a bit better (..one of the first): ”He is best known as one of the first African Americans to play in the National Basketball Association (NBA).”

 

Maybe the Plot Outline could be: ”Hall of Famer, Nat 'Sweetwater' Clifton, makes history as one of the first African American to sign an NBA contract, forever changing how the game of basketball is played”

Then again, perhaps he doesn’t ”make history” if he’s one of the first…

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@eboy​ I agree w/ this.  If you see my most response to @mbmb, you'll see that this was likely marketed as such, b/c he didn't actually secure this role in history.  The historical record was changed to make this possible, which is way worse than an IMDB description.  Regardless, I think that it's IMDB's responsibility to correct for intentional misrepresentations of history.

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@eboy​ Wikipedia page for the movie does not state "one of the first", it states "the first": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweetwater_(2023_film)

Wikipedia page for the real person states "one of the first", not the movie.

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Yes. And? You can of course keep the current Outline, or make a minor adjustment to it. It’s not my decision, really. Mainly just curious why this ”original” Outline is so important to you.

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@eboy​ It's not clear who you're referring when you post a reply like this (as a new comment). If it's me, I just said something similar to what gromit82 said, meaning if that's what the plot of the movie is, then that's a correct "plot" outline, that's all. I don't think I posted something here that would indicate it's so important to me.