Implementation of new genres

@gromit82 From https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/implementation-of-new-genres/5f4a7a638815453dbaa6da98?commentId=5f4a7b888815453dbadc46b5&replyId=5f4a7df48815453dba4adaf4 IMDb Statisticshttps://www.imdb.com/pressroom/stats/ July 25 2021 Title Genres .........13,425,943 Drama: ...........2,284,638Comedy:........ 1,691,632Short:.............. 1,090,791Talk Show:........ 998,132Romance:......... 850,251Documentary: 773,483Family:.............. 655,591News:............... 618,588Reality Tv:...... 437,422Music:............ 413,979Animation:... 402,948Crime:............ 358,672Action:........... 328,938Adventure:... 313,948Fantasy:......... 274,871Game Show: 268,131Thriller:.......... 262,113Adult: ............240,943Mystery:....... 224,415Sport: ............203,978Sci Fi:............. 192,761Horror:.......... 163,412History:......... 125,029Biography:.... 87,301Musical:........ 79,309War:............... 48,833Western:...... 35,015Film Noir: ..........819 http://web.archive.org/web/20180915000000*/https://www.imdb.com/pressroom/stats/ .

I'm not sure why the Romance genre didn't make the 2018 list, but it was definitely on IMDb long before then. As shown at http://web.archive.org/web/20180819222145if_/https://www.imdb.com/pressroom/stats/, there were already 428,395 Romance titles in the database as of Aug. 19, 2018. I'm guessing that the Oct. 8, 2018 list cited by ACT_1 just had an inadvertent omission. http://web.archive.org/web/20010304112154/http://us.imdb.com/Guides/genres indicates that the Romance genre was in place no later than 2001. It predates some other existing genres, including Talk-Show, News, Reality-TV, Music, Game-Show, Sport, and History, Biography. In fact, I think the eight genres I just mentioned were the most recent ones to be added to IMDb. And they were all in place before the poll to add new genres in 2010, which resulted in Soap Opera, Erotica, Awards-Show, Experimental, and Lifestyle being selected.

@gromit82 ? ? ? I may have deleted Romance formatting it with the dots I deleted the above ooooppppsss

@gromit82 You wrote: I see that Col responded to this problem a few months ago, and apparently IMDb is somewhere on the road to making it possible to implement the new genres after the programmers made it impossible to do so for some reason. But I suspect that we are still some time away from seeing implementation of these genres. Yes, your summary is accurate and we are indeed nearer, yet still some time away. Just to clarify: "impossible" is too strong a word, and it is more like "impractical" given the complexity of making changes to multiple old software systems which are scheduled for retirement vs. how the time could be better spent replacing the old software and, as a free side effect, then just being able to add the genres much more easily in the new software. It's an age-old dillema and there are times when it is worth fixing the old software, however, this is not one of them.

@ACT_1 Actually, "Romance" was indeed omitted from an IMDb statistics list in 2018; see http://web.archive.org/web/20181025134724if_/https://www.imdb.com/pressroom/stats/ (Oct. 25, 2018), which lists the then-existing genres as follows: Title Genres Drama 1,330,188 Comedy 1,145,459 Short 770,198 Documentary 529,741 Talk_show 509,938 Family 406,228 News 377,795 Animation 274,750 Reality_tv 258,115 Music 250,383 Crime 238,295 Action 219,170 Adventure 184,283 Game_show 183,602 Thriller 168,697 Fantasy 154,471 Adult 153,743 Mystery 148,355 Sci_fi 136,252 Sport 119,347 Horror 106,104 History 78,323 Biography 62,817 Musical 54,242 War 33,423 Western 31,274 Film_noir 811 This was obviously just an error since the Romance genre existed on IMDb at that time, but it wasn't ACT_1's error.

? ? Mon Oct 8 2018 IMDb Statistics https://www.imdb.com/pressroom/stats/ Title Genres • Drama........... 1,330,188 • Comedy........ 1,145,459 • Short................ 770,198 • Documentary... 529,741 • Talk_show...... 509,938 • Family............ 406,228 • News.............. 377,795 • Animation....... 274,750 • Reality_tv....... 258,115 • Music............. 250,383 • Crime............. 238,295 • Action............ 219,170 • Adventure..... 184,283 • Game_show.. 183,602 • Thriller........... 168,697 • Fantasy.......... 154,471 • Adult.............. 153,743 • Mystery......... 148,355 • Sci_fi............. 136,252 • Sport............. 119,347 • Horror........... 106,104 • History............ 78,323 • Biography....... 62,817 • Musical.......... 54,242 • War................ 33,423 • Western......... 31,274 • Film_noir............. 811 web.archive.org /20180915 Sun Jul 25 2021 IMDb Statistics https://www.imdb.com/pressroom/stats/ Title Genres .........13,425,943 Drama: ...........2,284,638 Comedy:........ 1,691,632 Short:.............. 1,090,791 Talk Show:........ 998,132 Romance:......... 850,251 Documentary: 773,483 Family:.............. 655,591 News:............... 618,588 Reality Tv:...... 437,422 Music:............ 413,979 Animation:... 402,948 Crime:............ 358,672 Action:........... 328,938 Adventure:... 313,948 Fantasy:......... 274,871 Game Show: 268,131 Thriller:.......... 262,113 Adult: ............240,943 Mystery:....... 224,415 Sport: ............203,978 Sci Fi:............. 192,761 Horror:.......... 163,412 History:......... 125,029 Biography:.... 87,301 Musical:........ 79,309 War:............... 48,833 Western:...... 35,015 Film Noir: ..........819 Thu Feb 9 2022 IMDb Statistics As of Dec 2021 https://www.imdb.com/pressroom/stats/ Genres: ...... 14,305,353 Drama: .......... 2,431,574 Comedy: ........ 1,791,103 Talk Show: ..... 1,098,007 Short: ...............1,075,829 Romance: ....... 885,435 Documentary: 813,508 News: ............... 774,677 Family: ............ 705,741 Reality TV: ...... 474,639 Music: .............. 439,534 Animation: ..... 428,417 Crime: .............. 372,583 Action: ............. 342,552 Adventure: ..... 330,677 Game Show: ... 295,440 Fantasy: ............ 287,451 Thriller: ............. 270,152 Adult: ................ 258,503 Mystery: .......... 234,408 Sport: ................ 215,176 Sci Fi: ................. 200,987 Horror: .............. 172,071 History: ............. 138,304 Biography: ....... 91,577 Musical: ............ 90,692 War: .................. 50,138 Western: ........... 35,356 Film Noir: .......... 822

Yes, three quarters of a score has seen the persistence of a particular technical difficulty.

Also, we are now up to 39 votes in support of implementing the new genres. Unfortunately, I can't see the names of the supporters ever since this site moved to Sprinklr, but I want to say that I do appreciate your support.

@gromit82​ 40 votes now!

@keyword_expert​ 12 years, incredible.

And it shouldn't even be about only these particular 5 genres (which I also support), but about overall genre and feature flexibility, so that more genres and similar features can be added in real-time. If the current system doesn't make it feasible to implement something as simple as additional genres, then it needs to be redesigned/fixed so that it can.

Shape: I agree, because I don't think that the five genres approved in 2010 were supposed to be the last ones ever approved. If there had been a procedure in which to implement those genres at the time they were approved, there might have been some consideration to choosing a few more genres a few years later. But since the process is twelve years behind schedule, that's hardly in the works now.

@gromit82​ Exactly. There are certainly other genres that are needed, and I'm sure would have been requested in followup comments/threads if the community thought it would be worth the time to make the requests and also not detract attention from the original one that's still idle.

I hope everybody who (still) supports this issue will vote for it and/or post about it. It's unbelievable it's taking so long.

The fact that this is the third message board system on which I've had to campaign for the implementation of the new genres suggests ... well, I don't know what it suggests, but probably not something good. (First the IMDb Contributors Help message board, then Get Satisfaction, and now Sprinklr.) When these new genres were first promised, Prince William was still single and Volodomyr Zelenskyy was known mostly as the co-star of the Love in the Big City movies.

@gromit82​ The work on the tech migration is not yet complete, sorry. We have completed the majority of pages by traffic volume, but there are still many page types left to go (including advanced search which plays a major role in genre driven pages / links).

Thanks, Col.

@Col_Needham​ Thanks at least for the reply.

Like many other words used to describe the subject matter of a film, Religious is better suited as and has already been used as a keyword/tag. It also isn't an actual existing film genre, just a descriptive adjective.

On streaming platforms, the "religious" category is better known as "faith and spirituality". Which sort of helps account for the fact that many religious themes or events can be found outside of the ecclesiastical houses, seminaries, monasteries and temples.

[@gromit82​ ... Idea threads are never expired]

@Col_Needham​ Thanks, I didn't know that.

I sort of inquired about that before, and Col explained that closed threads that are too old and also no longer relevant are either made so that they;re only visible to the people who posted in them if not deleted entirely, so that more recent or more important threads are easier to track. As near as a I can tell, idea thread stay up util they've been either long implemented or not open for consideration. I've noticed that a large portion of the threads I've created over two years ago or so are no longer visible to the public, or in some cases return HTTP error 404 for me. I might have to start one, maybe two, of them over, because they weren't ever actually resolved to my satisfaction an thus may elicit additional inquiries from me.