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IMDb staff: Please Undo these Keyword Auto-Conversions

Dear IMDb staff:

Please undo these keyword auto-conversions. Details explained here.

Undo Auto-Conversions

1.  mass-confusion  -->  confusion

2.  goof-up -->  goof

3.  goof-reel  -->  goof

4. expertise  -->  expert

5.  car-keys  -->  car-key

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2 years ago

Hi @keyword_expert -

I can confirm that the keyword auto-conversions you reported have since been reversed.

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@Michelle​ Thank you so much! When I get a chance (probably in a few days), I will use my previous notes to rebuild the "car-keys" keyword.

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2 years ago

If singular forms are preferred, why shouldn't car-key be preferred over car-keys?

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2 years ago

"car keys" is such a weird keyword to log. Literally movie/tv show where... cars exist, and someone points their car keys at the car would qualify here. Over 250 titles have been given this tag in the database. And it's just bizarre to me. 

This is almost like someone just tagging "building" then adding it to every single show and film ever made, except a fractitious few where there are no buildings because it's a survival on a tropical island or something.

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@Skavau​ The keyword "car-keys" is actually not that strange of a keyword. This keyword might have been overused, but as long as it is used in keeping with the guidelines, it is perfectly appropriate.

Keywords are supposed to be about important plot points. If a character in a movie steals someone's car keys in order to keep them from driving away, then "car-keys" is a good keyword. Same with a title where someone loses their car keys and spends several minutes looking for them. Or a horror title where someone is trying to escape a homicidal maniac and they drop their car keys, only to pick them up and then their car won't start. (The keyword "car-keys" often works well in conjunction with keywords like "car-won't-start" and "car-trouble.") 

I do understand (and agree with) your point that it is never a good idea to add a keyword for every little thing show on the screen, whether a building, car keys, or whatever.

This is actually one of my pet peeves: when people add keywords that are not important to the plot -- describing random objects that only have minimal important to the plot, describing what characters are wearing, or even worse, using keywords like "reference-to-a-breath-mint" because a character briefly says something about a breath mint.

If a physical object is important enough to move the plot forward, then it's fine to add that as a keyword (whether or not it is shown on the screen). But if a physical object just happens to appear on the screen (or is briefly spoken about) without being important to the plot, then it definitely does not warrant the addition of a keyword.

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@keyword_expert​ Trouble is "car keys" itself gives no context to whether or not it plays any role in the plot. 

I think this is more of a problem for TV series, than movies as it's highly likely that "car keys" in basically every scenario is referring to something only present in an episode, rather than an overarching series theme. I doubt there's a show where there's a serious recurring instance of car keys playing an important role in the plot narrative.

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@Skavau​ 

Trouble is "car keys" itself gives no context to whether or not it plays any role in the plot. 

This could be said of most keywords. The problem is with overuse, not with the keywords themselves.