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Sunday, April 3rd, 2022 8:24 PM

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images vandalism

soooo there is a series of games called akumajo dracula, it was published in usa under the name of castlevania

i spent a lot of time researching auctions and history books on the topic and found some actual poster of the time of release and uploaded them. right now almost every picture in the series pages is a fanart made of press assets or scanning art books.

i try to clean up them one by one spending hours on every picture trying to find a single source proving that it is at least an ad or boxart or digital press kit before submitting them for deletion. but for the last month someone uploads 10 new fanart pictures without burden of proof for every single one i research to be tailor made fanart for imdb picture. i can't match that speed, is there anything anyone can do about it? and the quality of new fanart ranges from slapping a trasnparent  logo on artbook scan to actual obvious paintbrush madskillz with [blending options>drop shadow] or glow

how do people become the imdb moderators for images? any way i can become one?

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2 years ago

like,

rm2533105153 literally says "hacked"

rm2566659585 and here you can see the part where they cropped the jewel, box image and duplicated the etxture

rm2633768449 and this one uses incorrect font that was created 6 years later (a guess, but other games used akumajo 1 font, not 2003 game's font)

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Hi agof-

 

We appreciate you taking the time to report this, I can see the images mentioned are now deleted, if there are any more fan art images please feel free to report them so we can delete them. As for adding more images, I have given an alert to our editors to be extra careful and watch out for fan art.

 

Thanks!

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@Bethanny​ 

for example a title i haven't touched yet

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387915/mediaviewer/rm3571193857/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387915/mediaviewer/rm4259059713/

even dupes

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387915/mediaviewer/rm3420198913/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387915/mediaviewer/rm3269203969/

these look suspicious since they lack any markings 

and cursory googling do not show them (and you know how bothersome it's to extract the images from inside IMDB HTML code)

boxart

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387915/mediaviewer/rm3789297665/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387915/mediaviewer/rm1908465920/

duplicates

but the one without the light bleed was categorized as poster instead of boxart

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387915/mediaindex?refine=poster&ref_=tt_mv_close

lurking on auctions reveals that there is an actual poster in existence

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g1026408491

and there are a lot of titles

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls511724123/

like, this one has 8 pictures in category "poster" 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2051817/mediaindex?refine=poster&ref_=ttmi_ref_pos

one them is ether a boxart or imitation of the box art

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411218/mediaindex?refine=poster&ref_=ttmi_ref_pos

or these "posters"

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@Bethannyhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0260785/

check the primary image history on this one, each time i switch to one of the existing posters it gets reverted to the artbook scan with logo tacked on

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@Bethanny​ during today alone the primary images were switched multiple times around already. 

soooo any way i can become a mod?

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@Bethanny​ why is it marked "solved" if nothing is solved? after that that same person switched them about a ten times more and now after the night all of them again are displaying fanarts instead of real posters

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls511724123/

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Hi Agof -

Upon reviewing several of these images, the issue at hand is that these images are categorized as "Posters" when they should instead be categorized as "Product" (for example, this image for "Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia"), is that correct?

Initially you also mentioned that there was fan art present on these title pages, however, I was unable to easily identify these images.  If there is fan art on the site, the best way to report it is by clicking on the Flag icon below the image and filling out a report form which our image editors will review.  Otherwise, if you have already reported these images and they were not removed, post the IMDb image links here and our staff can take another look.

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@Michelle​ 

the question was not about individual pictures, but about contributors who repeatedly upload and change primary images. this time it's akumajo. several years ago i wrote here about a contributor constantly switching the 7 samurai poster to their own fanart

atm i dealt with some of the images and cleaned them up. the image you've linked is a fanart: NDS boxes are nearly square and horizontal. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417521 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5451664/ these two are obviously fan made

aaaand while i'm writing this that person has returned and continues to upload their fanart and change primary images

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417520/mediaviewer/rm1043734017/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417520/mediaviewer/rm859184641/

both of these were deleted a ten times already

so as i said, the main propblem is that someone intentionally made their own custom images by photoshopping concept art and relentlessly uploads them to imdb faster than i can delete them

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@agof​ Hi!

Is this still an ongoing issue?
If so can you link the fake images below to check if I can track down the user adding them?

Cheers!

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@Bethanny​ it was an issue again this autumn and i fixed it again and also tracked down several more official posters

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@agof​ So you deleted them already? if so, do you happen to have the submission references for the deletions?

Thanks!

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@Bethanny​ 

april, september and now in december 1

i've tracked down the sources of them all. some of them are copied from deviantart, some are made by adding a wrong logo to textless digital postcards, some a crops of boxart deleting the platform information. many are copied from some site aggregating such images made by many people for digital collection tracking

here are some examples

1 December 2022
#221201-052606-426802
1 December 2022
#221201-053235-520202
1 December 2022
#221201-052956-228202
1 December 2022
#221201-060402-140202

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@Bethanny​ aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand here we go again

less than a month

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388695/mediaviewer/rm3250077441/

this image outright doesn't exist

there was no english language release and the font is wrong and the name is wrong

the only source is IMDB

https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivth-RMtyYkfwfvJdfFvVw5Jc4t-tGMXhPLZ4ejoZxhp04aKYS-TCwbqgK1aqJBQjzJiREwze5i9sWLXBDQSdWYWWwtne-L6w3STVXhP83k4sIo_1je4DjGlivzz8leutHiGg5yPqgwyCGXtFV_112ihKu5hgtVf4Cg3D6W-q4dg3KZxvQto10sNC3HacFHK0wfK-paEyzUR9j4AWSNYDJWUKKnRJzWGmB5WyIe6_1t-SgKB7sYcr_18TF092wV5GvNsjPIdWaahoHDeYspQYSdyJfnrl2j4886uqQ3C5_11coCBoRXk8OicddSqC7RAWfvJbR2ImMeJgEqA59HCoqixF36PxOeyxQUXSTP4ZrXj6hVTKv7JEOQ

can't you add some note for moderators to not even accept images for these titles without body of proof? like there are protected pages in wikipedia if they are often vandalized

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and for example, i use photographic evidence before uploading an image as a poster

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@agof​ Deleted! And note added.

Thanks!

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@Bethanny​ you mean you've deleted only one image?

can't you see the user who uploaded it and check their other uploads and delete those?

at least the ones related to akumajo titles these are all definitely trolling

and it's very petty trolling too

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4507076/mediaviewer/rm1261641217/

here's official poster

and

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4507076/mediaviewer/rm530661121/

here's a lower res image with higher res logo in the wrong colours and with all trademarks deleted. this isn't a question of a picture but just a craving to upload fanart for the sake of fanart

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@agof​ Both images linked have to be deleted? or 1 is real? didn't quite understand.
And as I have explained on previous occasions, I can't track the user because they come from different users.

Thanks!

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@agof​ To be completely honest there is not much noticeable difference between the 2 images, that is the reason why even with the note for our editors they are still being accepted, unless you are a fan I would think both images come from the same source. I can't track the user uploading them either because they are all coming from different sources.

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do these sources contribute anything useful to the database otherwise? or each account is created to upload one same image?

it's a coordinated bot farm because 10 minutes ago i returned the real images and poof all of them are fanart againt. how several unrelated users can do that? there isn't even a wikipedia style watchlist

if it's a bot farm, why not ban the whole farm? do their IP match? if it's a single point source, leading directly to one owner, then why not ban the IP

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@Bethanny​ well if there is a note, there has to be a proper reason for changing a primary image. if they look similar then why accept the change at all?

this is a year long issue, so repeated vandalism is expected

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and since it's all the same pictures, why not ban anyone who uploads them who also doesn't have useful contributions?

if a troll does something useful with each new account that would be at least something, but if it's new accounts created just to upload fanart why not ban them?

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@Bethanny​ if there was a note nobody read it. all exactly the same images were used

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and they are being changed again right as we are talking

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1378177/mediaviewer/rm1706639105?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185980/mediaviewer/rm3820502785?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2048693/mediaviewer/rm1840856833?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2048693/mediaviewer/rm515586817?ref_=ttmi_mi_all_pos_6

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411218/mediaviewer/rm3770171137?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981633/mediaviewer/rm1958297345?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409802/mediaviewer/rm3937943297/?ref_=tt_ov_i

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981616/mediaviewer/rm867778305/?ref_=tt_ov_i

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467376/mediaviewer/rm4273487617?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467376/mediaviewer/rm4055383809?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_2

this is the site i was talking about, pulled from steamgridb

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&tbs=simg:CAQSiAIJDZr9ePIEEGsa_1AELELCMpwgaOwo5CAQSFMIe9SjHN9Qb2DOqEtYJxh_19L7AYGhtneBgOAPW7rvxOVpkgXWv6q5tu90KefuTmgxogBTAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEFdm_1KgwLEJ3twQkamwEKKwoVc3VwZXJuYXR1cmFsIGNyZWF0dXJl2qWI9gMOCgwvZy8xMTk2YjMwMWYKGAoFc2NhcnnapYj2AwsKCS9hL2YyYnhjegoYCgZkcmFnb27apYj2AwoKCC9tLzAyY3A1ChwKCmFnZ3Jlc3Npb27apYj2AwoKCC9tLzBnMHZnChoKB2ZpY3Rpb27apYj2AwsKCS9qLzRmazlxMww&q=super+castlevania+iv+art&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj91KzD0Jz8AhVt_CoKHZCzAiYQ2A4oAHoECAUQAg&biw=1600&bih=995&dpr=1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981615/mediaviewer/rm800669441?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8043608/mediaviewer/rm96026369/?ref_=tt_ov_i

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a day later and the bot farm back at it

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185980/mediaviewer/rm3445702401?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2048693/mediaviewer/rm1986150145?ref_=ttmi_mi_typ_pos_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411218/mediaviewer/rm3378593537/?ref_=tt_md_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981633/mediaviewer/rm1784823553/?ref_=tt_md_3

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409802/mediaviewer/rm3937943297/?ref_=tt_md_3

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981616/mediaviewer/rm845299457/?ref_=tt_md_4

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9214190/mediaviewer/rm3966648065/?ref_=tt_md_3

here it is as always

https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&tbs=simg:CAQShAIJv6fojcszkMoa-AELELCMpwgaOgo4CAQSFKEV0irWCe8W8x7JLLAushisM7EjGhoCuS5L-u9GHnVTJyyHQWkhYr1GmGetmMyDKiAFMAQMCxCOrv4IGgoKCAgBEgQrI-ZaDAsQne3BCRqYAQonChNmaWN0aW9uYWwgY2hhcmFjdGVy2qWI9gMMCgovbS8wMmg3bGt0ChkKB2ZpY3Rpb27apYj2AwoKCC9tLzAyeGxmChgKBWhhcHB52qWI9gMLCgkvYS9iZjZka2YKFgoDZG902qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMjdjdGcKIAoNYW5pbWF0ZWQva2lkc9qliPYDCwoJL2ovYzh6bGQyDA&q=akumajou+special+boku+dracula+kun&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj31frnk6H8AhXC6CoKHU79BMcQ2A4oAHoECAYQAg&biw=1600&bih=995&dpr=1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9214190/mediaviewer/rm1986805505/?ref_=tt_md_4

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467376/mediaviewer/rm3546365697/?ref_=tt_md_3

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467376/mediaviewer/rm3680583425/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1981615/mediaviewer/rm761413377/?ref_=tt_md_2

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9214256/mediaviewer/rm1970028289/?ref_=tt_ov_i

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9214256/mediaviewer/rm3916316417/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8043608/mediaviewer/rm157433601/?ref_=tt_md_1

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388695/mediaviewer/rm3630251777?ref_=ttmi_mi_all_pos_7

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417519/mediaviewer/rm643972865/?ref_=tt_md_3

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0824665/mediaviewer/rm1868709633/?ref_=tt_md_4

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0260785/mediaviewer/rm1418608385/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417522/mediaviewer/rm576864001?ref_=ttmi_mi_all_pos_6

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they are botted right back just as they are deleted

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