Ice Bucket Challenge added as a title

@keyword_expert​  I must admit, when writing down keywords I might include quite a few things discussed by characters, which are not mentions in passing, but at least an exchange of several lines. "Reference-to" keywords I've encountered so far are usually for either direct or indirect references to people or works of fiction. Pretty sure in any other context we can just put a more direct keyword.  

It's funny to think that at one point I considered keywords a chore since now they're like entertaining mini-game: how much can you fill in on a minute-long short film, a ten-minute webisode, a feature film... It's a witty reverse-engineering of what you just saw. 

@keyword_expert​ 

So where is the transcript for the title in question?

@Peter_pbn​ 

Here you go: https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=713&t=32183

So not something we can search on IMDb.

There is no rule that a keyword must describe something "integral" to a plot.

@nikolay_yeriomin​ I agree on your points. One of my favorite things in the world is to watch a movie in the theater the night it is released, then once I am at home see how many high-quality keywords I can add to that film from memory. It is important to do this from memory, without the title on the screen in front of you, so you don't fall into the trap of simply transcribing the dialogue or what the characters are wearing in each scene. Robots or software could do that.

What is important about keywords is concepts -- that is where they can be magical. Some of my favorite keywords involve concepts like "town-with-a-dark-secret," "vigilante-justice," "bully-comeuppance," "political-corruption," "stranger-in-town." "one-man-army," "vacation-gone-wrong," "no-one-believes-the-protagonist," "antagonist-as-protagonist," and so on. Concepts! That is the essence of what makes keywords magical.

Too many people these days are Netflix subscribers and are mostly watching whatever they can view through Netflix, and only using IMDb based on what's available on Netflix, and even only adding keywords literally as they are watching what happens and is said on the screen in front of them, as they literally watch it on Netflix. It's a shame. It takes away critical thinking skills, including whether a particular keyword is truly important to the plot (and thus worthy of being added to the title).

I'm okay with certain things that are discussed becoming keywords, but only when they are important to the plot. Like if a big part of a movie is about someone searching for their wallet and asking around for their wallet, but they never show the actual wallet, that deserves the keyword "wallet" (not "reference-to-wallet"). But if a scene just randomly happens to include a wallet (or a brief discussion of a wallet), that shouldn't be anywhere near the keyword section. Otherwise the keyword sections become walls of spam, very difficult to digest. 

@nikolay_yeriomin​ And yes, "reference-to-" keywords should mostly be reserved for people, characters, works of fiction, and movie and TV-related companies -- mostly a few categories of things that otherwise have their own database listings on IMDb. 

@Peter_pbn​ 

So not something we can search on IMDb.

Correct. But the Internet is not limited to IMDb.

There is no rule that a keyword must describe something "integral" to a plot.

I'm not sure what is in the rules, but this is what I have in mind. It is from the "Tips for Keyword submissions" that all users are invited to click on and read literally right before they add new keywords:

Tips for Keyword submissions

@Peter_pbn​ p.s. I checked the guidelines and that word "notable" is in there too. 

A keyword is a word (or group of connected words) attached to a title (movie / TV series / TV episode) to describe any notable object, concept, style or action that takes place during a title. The main purpose of keywords is to allow visitors to easily search and discover titles.

What is "notable" may vary from user to user, but the point is to not waste everyone's time (and bog down the keywords) with trivial details about every little thing each character says, wears, and looks like (or every single object on the screen).

The guidelines also say "notable actions", and referencing something in conversation is an action. Whether something is notable is subjective, but is not the same as being "integral" to a whole.

@Peter_pbn​ Fair enough, but in most cases "notable" and "integral" will coincide. 

@Peter_pbn​ By the way, I can't tell if you are just playing devil's advocate or whatever, but I hope you are not arguing that it's okay to have hundreds and hundreds of "reference-to-" keywords on each title, essentially transcribing every single thing mentioned in the dialogue, as long as the contributor subjectively finds all of it "notable." 

Well, I don't think that's up to me to decide.

@keyword_expert​ My hands-down favorite keyword is unexplained-events. :)

@Michelle​ Greatest thanks! 

I can agree this is certainly an unusual situation.