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Golden Globe Awards

The last nine Golden Globe Awards, including this year's upcoming broadcast, appear to have been merged into the series listing "Golden Globe Awards" (1944). I find this inappropriate as is not the usual way of listing annual shows in IMDb. I had previously reported the series listing for deletion, instead I now find the TV specials being removed.

I have now submitted corrections to bring them back as TV specials with the previous, correct on-screen titles. If these are not accepted, please provide an explanation.

210209-125338-239000

210209-125030-799000

210209-124733-376000

210209-124352-855000

210209-124128-852000

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4 years ago

Hi Peter -

 

I just reviewed the series listing you mentioned and can confirm that the listing is invalid as it violates our Title formatting, Award shows should be listed on the site as individual TV Specials and not as a TV Series with episodes for each annual event.

 

This will involve a great deal of clean-up, as such I have filed a ticket for our editors to investigate and sort out.

 

As soon as I have an update on the status I will let you know here.

 

Cheers!

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4 years ago

The titles are back as TV specials, thanks.

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I have received word from IMDb that they have split the series into TV movies.

The series title is still listed without episodes: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13374732/

The 1944-1954 TV movies probably shouldn't be listed as there is no evidence that the awards were televised (no links or other data is listed). The years 1955-1981 are now duplicated as TV movies and specials. The 1982-2012 titles probably need title corrections.

https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title=golden%20globe&sort=year,asc

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4 years ago

I don't think much clean-up has been done by IMDb, but I did what I could. Here is where I leave it:

1. The series title that I originally reported is still listed.

2. Because the series episodes were split into TV movies without concern for whether the listings were accurate, there are now TV movies/specials listed for almost every year since the first Golden Globe Awards in 1944 even though the awards were (according to my research) first aired in 1958 and were off the air from 1969 to 1972. I have contacted the help desk about this, but they said they would keep the titles, referring only to the IMDb listings as evidence of their existence, a circular argument which I do not plan to follow further. This is despite Michelle's reply to me about Early award shows.

3. Many of the titles are listed with titles on the form The 75th Annual Golden Globe Awards 2018, where the year in the title is superfluous. This is because that is how the series episodes were added, and they were merged or moved without preserving the previously listed titles and without respect for the formats used by the award ceremony. I have submitted original title screen titles where I could find evidence, but video is not available for every year, and some edits have not been made despite video/screengrab evidence:

#210311-195018-213000 (76th)

#210311-194644-765000 (75th)

#210311-200948-153000 (50th)

#210311-200822-826000 (48th)

#210311-195912-017000 (45th)

#210311-195724-031000 (43rd)

#210311-195513-749000 (41st)

 

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Hi @Peter_pbn​ -

I'm just following up here to confirm the following actions have been taken:

1) The title has been removed.

2) As I understand, the titles that need to be removed are all Golden Globe Award show title pages  prior to the year 1958, and between the years 1969 to 1972, as these events were not publicly broadcasted, is that correct?

3) These event title text corrections have now been approved and the changes should be live on the site shortly.

 Cheers!

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@Michelle​ 

Thanks, and yes, I believe so.

Note that the 1955, 1957 and 1971 events are listed without dates:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10667308/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10666350/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10667316/

Here are some sources that I cited in submissions two years ago:

"February 22, 1958. For the first time, the ceremony is telecast live, locally." https://www.goldenglobes.com/golden-age/seven-days-golden-globes-part-2-5697


"The 1958 ceremony was the first to be broadcast, but only on a local LA station." https://nypost.com/2011/01/16/the-moet-the-merrier/

"Golden Globes Return Minus TV" (LA Times 1969)
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/73299212/the-los-angeles-times/

"Hollywood Foreign Press Assn.'s Golden Globes awards, off tv since 1968 when they encountered sharp criticism from the FCC..."
(Variety, December 1972)
https://search.proquest.com/docview/1032477307

"Despite a four-year blackout from TV networks (1968-1971), the Hollywood Foreign Press Association got continuous support from Hollywood." ("1968-1971" refers to the events that took place in 1969-72 but honored films from the year before)
https://www.goldenglobes.com/sites/default/files/2018_gg_program_book.pdf (page 26)

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@Michelle​ 

This title correction that was resubmitted on my behalf has not been made:

230322-212506-588000

The 45th Annual Golden Globe Awards 1988 (1988) (TV)

Title Correction - Add

Correction: The 45th Annual Golden Globe Awards (1988) (TV)

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2 years ago

Peter: Could you also check on the 1980s editions of the Golden Globes? I was under the impression that the Globes were off television for a certain number of years after Pia Zadora won the "New Star of the Year" award at the Globes for 1981 (held in 1982), after her husband paid for a junket for the voters. From The Encyclopedia of Movie Awards by Michael Gebert:

"The Pia Incident" sparked not only a wave of derisive publicity, but even an FCC investigation that led for a time to the removal of the Globes show from network television.

Granted, it's possible that the Globes could still have been broadcast in syndication, on cable (unlikely early in the 1980s, plausible later in the decade), or on television outside the U.S.

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@gromit82​ 

This article says Dick Clark produced the show for syndication from 1983:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/dick-clark-golden-globes-hfpa-315825/

I also posted screengrabs above from some shows from that era, found videos found online.

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1 year ago

Hi @Peter_pbn & @gromit82 -

I'm just following up on this older thread to confirm if there are any related outstanding issues you are aware of with The Golden Globes or any needed clean-up.  If so, let us know and our staff can take look.