Film-Noir definition needs to be changed

@bradley_kent Thanks, but we are happy with the definition and the very specific time period as covered in the guide: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/genres/GZDRMS6R742JRGAG?ref_=helpms_helpart_inline#noir None of the above titles are eligible anyway as none are set in contemporary times; the closest is Pursued (1947) even it still fails the requirement. Even if we extended the production year range, Day of the Outlaw (1959) also fails the contemporary test, sorry. There are several "-noir" IMDb keywords for titles which are not true film noirs (or even films noir :-) and you are therefore welcome to tag westerns which have a film noir sensibility / style as "western-noir" which is might be more what Eddie is getting at here anyway. Hope this helps.

Thanks for the clarification. I know that a lot of time and conscientious thought and discussion went into genres and subgenres, but this brings up two other, more far-reaching problems: First, If a subgenre/keyword has a genre as an addendum, should not a specific title then also have that addendum as a genre. This is basic logic and the principles of outlining. A keyword/genre is a “sub” point to a genre, a “main” point. For examples, If a title has parody-comedy as a subgenre, should it not also have Comedy as a genre; if a title has monster-horror as a subgenre, should it not also have Horror as a genre; if a title has soccer-sport as a subgenre, should it not also have Sport as a genre; etc. Second, the guideline says, among things to avoid: “Repeating genres: For example, we have the genres Romance and Drama so you can submit these as genres to the title rather than submitting the keyword romantic-drama.” Yet, we have romantic-comedy as a subgenre when those titles should logically have Romance and Comedy as genres. If a title has Romance and Comedy as genes, does that not make the romantic-comedy subgenre redundant. An advance search combining the Romance and Comedy genres would give you ALL the Romantic-Comedy title just as an advanced search combining the Romance and Drama genres would give you ALL the Romantic-Drama titles.

Can’t help but keep thinking that the terminal year for Film Noir should be changed to 1959. IMDb may be "happy with the definition and the very specific time period as covered in the guide,” but, more and more, IMDb is proving to be an outlier. Ottoson’s film noir guidebook seems updated in Kearney’s. Wikipedia also uses 1959. It may well be that the 1959 titles were produced in 1958, but not released until the following year. Yes, Touch of Evil (1958) is a strong point of reference, but there seem to be a few “stragglers” into 1959. Just thinking. Overthinking?