Fake (?) shows

@VonPunk​ There may be some real aspect to both these shows, but my take on it is that these people may have, at the very most, done something or other on youtube (or as you said for the Peter Austin Noto show, a public access network) for a very small audience once upon a time and could now be using IMDB to come off as 'professionals', making themselves look to be much bigger. Look at the guest list on the Peter Austin Noto Show. Way too much high profile guests, plus as noted someone  retired from showbusiness like John Deacon appearing, with his old band Queen, five times (!) in 2016. And none of that footage has ever wound up online.

As for Fireside Chat with Esther, you'd think that as soon as Betty White died they'd upload the last live-action acting appearance she ever did in her life, which was on that show. But there's never been any footage of her three episodes posted on youtube. Supposedly, the show aired on A24 tv in 2018. Where is it? Also, look at the photos on IMDB of both shows; do most of them look even remotely like the 'product' they claim to be?

There's just too much fishy stuff going on there and I think it needs to be looked at.

@capdeac​ I was just posting evidence they exist as a show but looking into guests.

Lon Haber who played Esther does have a photo with Betty White on his IMDb page: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325236/mediaviewer/rm1494208256/

And paid tribute to her on Facebook after she passed, it's unlikely the right time to upload old footage of her just to get few clicks.

From what I've seen of the 'Peter Austin Noto Show', it seems it's meant to be a bit unprofessional looking and hammy to go with its low budget but some guests are real, the ones I just saw were Eric Roberts, Al Sapienza, Genoveva Rossi

& Abigail Hawk. All those 4 were promoted but no one else was, which does leave many credits looking dubious, it's possible they filmed them at events and credited them without even engaging with them personally since one episode has several famous rock stars credited.

@VonPunk​

I actually found that Abigail Hawk clip yesterday so at least those guests are real yeah. The problem with this whole thing (both shows actually) is that there are a lot of episodes listed on IMDB but they are nowhere to be found elsewhere, raising suspicions. Some credits must be fake; the aforementioned John Deacon ones have to be. He's been retired since 1997 and has not made a public appearance since about 2001 and has become something of a recluse, so a lot of it is still up in the air to me.

On Fireside Chat with Esther, yes, I saw the Betty White photo, but is a bit suspicious to me. It doesn't look like the character Haber plays (Esther) in the series. Might be Haber as another character, who knows. I suspected it was a shot from somewhere completely different, although I have no way of confirming that. The setting looks a bit too 'professional' and 'staged' too compared to the little footage there is online. But alright, let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

By the way, thank you for taking this seriously. I wasn't out to get these titled wiped from IMDB, I just wanted to put this out there and find out how real or fake this all is and the validity of the high profile guests. Still, until full episodes of either series pops up online you can never be completely sure of it.

@capdeac​ You are right to be suspicious and bring it up here.

Lon Haber is 100% Esther, aside from matching nose, mouth & eyebrows, the voice is a dead giveaway. No idea where the actual show was uploaded or if he deleted it all, only 1 episode seems to be findable.

I also don't know why he used bad quality pics of himself with Betty White as he has the same pictures in good quality on his facebook from 10 years ago.

I think the Noto show cast credits are very dodgy, at best they should be archive footage because from what I've seen of it, I highly doubt any of Queen ever went near that show, let alone several times.

@VonPunk​ Oh I wasn't doubting Esther was Haber, but Esther is a female character and on the picture with Betty White Haber's clearly not playing a female character. Looking on Haber's facebook page, that picture seems to come from an improv set he did with White. That doesn't preclude White from having been on his series as well, but that picture probably shouldn't be on the IMDB page for the series as it's probably completely unrelated. Unless, they showed a clip of the improv set on the series? Well then it's getting complicated.

@Michelle​ Well in that scenario of deleting credits I'd be busy for a few weeks then. Plus I'd need to provide sources for the deletions. How do I prove something doesn't exist?

In any case, I don't think deleting credits is the answer to the question. I could have done that myself if I were so inclined and it's not why I made this post. I made this post to bring these titles to the attention of people who can actually find out whether these shows are real and if they contain the guests they claim to have on IMDB. If I'd just go ahead and delete everything, on the off chance they are as real as they claim and actually *have* had all those high profile improbable guests, I would then have removed real credits wouldn't I?

@Michelle can you check why the following submissions were denied? These are additional fraudulent entries like the ones you looked at previously for me. I included URL links to screen grabs of credit screens and links to the actual project to provide proof.

#220104-185148-415000

#220104-033340-910000

#220104-182211-818000

#220104-192738-816000

thank you