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ERROR FILM "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO"

The original title of the film is "RAPTURE", it is not "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO".

 The film “SANGUE SUL SAGRATO” (1951) has nothing to do with “RAPTURE” (italian title “IN ESTASI”) (1949-1950). IT IS FALSE TO SAY THAT THERE ARE 2 VERSIONS OF THE SAME FILM. The Italian version of “RAPTURE” is just “IN ESTASI”.

RAPTURE is the first American film production produced and shot entirely in Italy in 1948 (September-November). It was released in Italy at the end of 1949 with the title "IN ESTASI" and in the United States in April 1950, after a dispute with American customs over a nude scene.

“Sangue sul sagrato” is an Italian film shot in Italy in the second half of 1950 and released in Italy in early 1951. It has a different plot, a different cast, a different production.

The manufacturers of “RAPTURE / IN ESTASI” were GOLDRIDGE inc. and VOYAGER int. The distributor in the United States was FILM CLASSICS and in Italy FINCINE. The producer of “Sangue sul sagrato” was UMBRIA FILM, the distributor in Italy was always Fincine.

There are several reviews on RAPTURE / IN ESTAS published In Italy, the United States and Great Britain between 1949 and 1951 well before “Sangue sul sagrato” came out. Therefore, this card must be split into 2 cards, one for "RAPTURE / IN ESTASI" and the other for "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO".

The cards must be completely rewritten with the right credits.

The poster must also be changed to the correct one of RAPTURE / IN ESTASI.

Believing that these gross and gross errors should be avoided on IMDB, especially with respect for the authors, actors and workers.
I CAN PROVIDE SEVERAL TESTS.

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3 years ago

Hi algormindy -

As I understand, you are referring to this title page.

To clarify, are you reporting that a title split needs to occur?  Wherein there are currently two separate titles, "Sangue sul sagrato" and "Rapture", sharing a single title page and need to be split?

If this is the case, do you have any online evidence to help verify that these are two separate films?

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@Michelle​ 

hi, yes they are two completely different films. "RAPTURE" (Italian title "In estasi") is the first American film completely shot in Italy between September and November 1948. It is not clear if the credits of the Italian edition (of which nothing is found) are different from the American ones, especially as regards the editing and the composer.
"Sangue sul sagrato" is an Italian production film shot in the second half of 1950 that the director Goffredo Alessandrini did not even finish due to a car accident, the film was completed by his assistant. I don't know who compiled this form but it certainly made a big mess because this error was copied from other sites.
I can prove the grave mistake made by IMDB.
Before filling out a film profile, you need to check the official texts and contact the national film institutions.

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3 years ago

Hi algormindy -

Unfortunately, I'm unable to review the second screen grab as the text is too small to review.  Can you post the link to that online page featuring the film details for "In Estasi"/'Rapture"?

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@Michelle​ 

hello, sorry if I answer late but I had a bit to do.
Then "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO" is not "RAPTURE" they are 2 different films shot in different periods.

SANGUE SUL SAGRATO
(released Italy 1951)

RAPTURE
(italian title IN ESTASI)
released in U.S. avril 1950 (in Italy september 1949)

Country of origin and production: ITALY
(filmed
2nd semester 1950)

Production: UMBRIA FILM

Director Goffredo Alessandrini, Michele Nesci
(the director Goffredo Alessandrini did not finish the film due to a car accident. The film was finished by his assistant: Michele Nesci).

 

PLOT

an orphan girl after a series of vicissitudes manages to find a job. She falls in love with the owner's son and remains pregnant. But when she reveals to him that she is expecting a baby, the situation becomes complicated in great tragedy ...

 

country of origin: Italy
Country of production U.S.A.
( filmed in Italy september-november 1948)
Production: GOLDRIDGE INC. NEW YORK
                   VOYAGERS INT. ROME (initially)

director Goffredo Alessandrini

 

PLOT

what is written ... a young Roman sculptor Pietro Leoni…

 

 
I am attaching something you can develop. I am willing to cooperate. This is the Italian link that clarifies the difference between the 2 films:
https://www.italiataglia.it/search/1944_2000 (type in the title).

best regards
Fernando Cianchetta

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@Michelle​ 

I forgot to tell you that the movie "sangue sul sagrato" is on youtube at this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0VjAoX_tJE 

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3 years ago

Hi algormindy -

Thanks for all this additional information and sources, I have now split the title pages so that they are now separate title page listings under "Sangue sul sagrato" and "In Estasi".

Cheers!

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@Michelle​ 

thanks for believing me.
But the card of "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO" must become "RAPTURE" (1950 released U.S.A.) eliminating the poster which is obviously wrong and some actors and technicians.
The new form must be that of "sangue sul sagrato" to be filled in and to which the poster must be transferred. If you want I will try to partially correct the first form (rapture) and fill in the whole form of "Sangue sul sagrato" or fill it in yourself with the screen I am sending you.

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3 years ago

Hi algormindy -

Can you clarify further the exact problems that remain and what changes should be made?

Currently we have the two separate titles listed:

Sangue sul sagrato

Rapture

Thanks!

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3 years ago

hi,
I tried to point out your big mistake concerning the movie "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO" which has nothing to do with "RAPTURE". But I see you haven't done anything. Could I contact the person who filled out this form? Anyone who has filled out this completely wrong form must do it again. Thank you for creating the "IN ESTASI" tab but the original title is "RAPTURE" putting "IN ESTASI" in parentheses. All the wrong reports of "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO" must be transferred to the new card even if I am trying to fill it out.
Delete from the "SANGUE SUL SAGRATO" card EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE "RAPTURE" FILM ( actors (Langan, Albiin,Ciannelli, Alessandrini, Dumbrille White) composer(Rosati) producers Phelam, Shepridge, Herczeg and many other notices

best regards
Fernando Cianchetta






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1 year ago

Hello algormindy,

You have mentioned on the post that, the title "Rapture" was first released as "In Estasy" in 1949, according to our guidelines, we use the original title in its original language as it appears on screen (on the title card). Was this title first screened as "In Estasy"? if so, it should remain the same.

Now for the title "Sangue sul sagrato", I have removed the incorrect cast/crew that was listed for the show, the changes will be live on the site shortly! If there are more changes to apply please let us know to take a look for you, additionally you can submit corrections/modifications to the title using the online self-service, more details on our Help Articles.