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Duplicated IMDb page to melt and TV mini series to create
Hi,
I face a problem I have difficulties to solve by myself, so I come here to find some help and maybe an action from IMDb team.
There is a TV documentary named « Édouard, mon pote de droite » (« Edward, my friend on the right wing ») about Edouard Philippe, the former French Prime Minister. It was made in 3 parts and broadcasted on French TV:
1st episode in 2016 (« Le Havre »):
http://www.film-documentaire.fr/4DACTION/w_fiche_film/47703_1
https://mobile.france.tv/france-5/edouard-mon-pote-de-droite/2592675-episode-1-le-havre.html
2nd episode in 2018 (« Primaire »):
http://www.film-documentaire.fr/4DACTION/w_fiche_film/52217_1
https://mobile.france.tv/france-5/edouard-mon-pote-de-droite/2592677-episode-2-primaire.html
3rd episode in 2021 (« Aux manettes »):
http://www.film-documentaire.fr/4DACTION/w_fiche_film/63292_1
https://mobile.france.tv/france-5/edouard-mon-pote-de-droite/2561775-episode-3-aux-manettes.html
So, we need to create a TV mini series with 3 episodes.
The problem is that it’s a bit a mess at the moment on IMDb. For the 1st episode, there are 2 IMDb pages that need to be melt:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9676894
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5570158
It’s better not to include this first episode in an existing TV series like « Docs interdits », which already includes 124 episodes from various subjects. That is why I would like to melt « tt5570158 » (episode of « Docs interdits ») into « tt9676894 » (dedicated page for this documentary). But I do not know how to convert « tt9676894 » into an episode page (« Le Havre ») of a TV mini series named « Édouard, mon pote de droite », that does not exist and that has to be created. At the moment, « tt9676894 » is indeed a TV movie page, which is not good.
To begin with, I created a contribution to melt the duplicated titles for the 1st episode:
https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/update?load=210705-120136-421000
So, please help me first to merge these 2 titles (by handling my contribution here above) and then by converting the melted page from a TV movie page into an episode page of a TV mini series named « Édouard, mon pote de droite ». Then, I could add to this mini series the 2 other episodes not existing at the moment on IMDb.
Thank you very much.
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Michelle
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3 years ago
Hi mompart -
To clarify what a "shell episode" is, this is basically a re-airing of a previously released title under a specific series banner.
So for example, if a title was first released as a TV Movie, and was later released under a series banner, this would be considered a "shell episode". Furthermore, shell episodes should not include any cast/crew information, it should primarily list the applicable re-aired release date, a trivia item indicating that it is a rebroadcast of the original title, and when applicable an "Edited from" Movie Connection.
An example of this is the title "Blackfish (2013)" which was originally aired as a standalone title, but was later re-aired as an episode under the "Storyville" series banner. There are also several examples under the TV Series banner "The Wonderful World of Disney".
I hope this helps!
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Michelle
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3 years ago
Hi mompart -
To clarify the issue further, did this mini-series ever air under the "Docs interdits" series banner? Or was this mini-series only aired as a standalone series?
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Sebastien
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3 years ago
Hi Michelle, only the first episode was part of « Docs interdits », as currently registered on IMDb. The 2 others episodes did not: they were broadcasted as stand alone. Indeed, I think that the TV show « Docs interdits » stopped in 2017 or 2018. That could be a reason. But the 3 episodes together make a mini series on their own. So, what should we do?
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Sebastien
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3 years ago
I think about something. Is it possible to associate an episode (here, the first one named « Le Havre ») to 2 different series? If yes, it would solve the issue and we can melt the one currently apart (>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9676894 <<<) into the other one (>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5570158 <<<) that would be linked both to our mini series and to « Docs interdits ».
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Sebastien
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3 years ago
I am open to any suggestion in order to avoid this duplication and to properly add the 2 missing episodes
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Michelle
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3 years ago
Hi mompart -
Thanks for the additional information. One more issue that needs clarity, was the first episode ("La Hiver") first screened as a standalone title and later aired as part of the "Docs interdits" series, or vice versa?
Once we can clarify the above, it can then be determine which airing should be listed as a "shell episode" vs the original episode.
In the meantime, a new series title has been listed for "Edouard, mon pote de droite", and the remaining two missing episodes can be added to this series title.
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Sebastien
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3 years ago
Thanks Michelle for your help and your professionalism 🌷🌷🌷.
This mini series of 3 documentaries, centered on Édouard Philippe, was originally directed independently from « Docs interdits ». After the shooting of the first episode, it went out in only 1 cinema in France (local release in the city of Le Havre) with a release date on the 23th of March 2016.
NB: The release date of the TV show you kindly created on IMDb should consequently be changed from « 2nd of March 2016 » to « 23th of March 2016 ».
Then, the first episode was bought and broadcasted on TV for the first time the 10th of August 2016 within « Docs interdits » series. This first episode was later broadcasted several other times on TV as a stand-alone (« Docs interdits » only broadcasted once in 2016).
But what I think is important to know is that this mini-series of documentary was not created for « Docs interdits », which only bought and broadcasted one episode. These 3 documentaries were made and financed independently from « Docs interdits ».
The 2 other episodes were not released in cinemas and went directly on TV in 2018 and 2021 as standalone.
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Sebastien
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3 years ago
Hi Michelle, in addition to the change of the release date for the first episode (cf my post here above), could you also please change the series title type from « TV series » to « TV mini-series »?
It has indeed only 3 episodes.
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Michelle
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3 years ago
Hi mompart -
The title has now been adjusted to "TV-Mini-Series" and the first episode Release Date has been updated.
Regarding the episode listed under "Docs interdits", as this is a secondary screening, this should be listed as a shell episode of the original, as such I have now made those applicable updates. All relevant episode details will now remain under the original release from the "Édouard, mon pote de droite" series.
Cheers!
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Sebastien
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3 years ago
Hi Michelle, thanks for all that you did with IMDb team regarding this documentary 🌷. I still have a question: what does it concretely mean to be a shell episode on IMDb? I thought you would have merged the 2 episodes, to avoid separate ratings/reviews for instance, but it is not the case
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Sebastien
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3 years ago
Thanks for all this information, Michelle🌷.
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