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Duplicate Keywords Proposed for Permanent Merging and Auto-Conversion - A Formal Proposal

I am starting a new thread to conclude the lengthy discussion in a prior thread regarding a list of proposed keyword mergers. This time I am marking the post as a "problem" instead of an "idea," which will hopefully trigger action by staff.

The following duplicate keywords are proposed for permanent merger and auto-conversion.  The keywords should be merged in the direction of the arrows.

This time I am reorganizing the list in alphabetical order and omitting the numbers of titles for each keyword. The original numbers can be seen in my original post, and those numbers demonstrate the inherent problems with these keywords.

Duplicate Keywords Proposed for Permanent Merging and Auto-Conversion

based-off-manga ---> based-on-manga
brunette-female  ---> brunette
counter-culture  ---> counterculture
crawl-space ---> crawlspace
crime-investigation ---> criminal-investigation
dead-body-in-car  ---> dead-body-in-a-car
environmental-issues ---> environmental-issue
face-deformity -->  facial-deformity
fake-moustache ---> fake-mustache
female-serial-murderer ---> female-serial-killer
girl-wearing-a-mini-skirt  ---> girl-wearing-a-miniskirt ---> girl-wears-a-miniskirt
hook-for-hand ---> hook-for-a-hand
japanese-school-girl ---> japanese-schoolgirl
man-screaming ---> screaming-man
mini-dress  ---> minidress
mini-skirt ---> miniskirt
moustache ---> mustache
moustache-twirling-villain ---> mustache-twirling-villain
moustached-man ---> man-with-a-mustache  ---> mustached-man
night-time ---> nighttime
psychotic-killer ---> psychopathic-killer  ---> psycho-killer
school-girl  ---> schoolgirl
serial-murderer ---> serial-killer
serial-murderer-as-protagonist ---> serial-killer-as-protagonist
shape-shifter ---> shapeshifter
shape-shifting ---> shapeshifting
soldiers ---> soldier
supernatural-serial-murderer  ---> supernatural-serial-killer
time-travelling ---> time-travel
travelling ---> traveling  ---> travel
woman-screaming ---> screaming-woman
woman-sitting-on-a-toilet  ---> woman-on-toilet ---> woman-sits-on-a-toilet
woman-with-gun ---> woman-with-a-gun

IMDB staff have previously said that "we aim to avoid keyword duplication whenever possible, when there are instances of duplicate verb keywords, when reported,  our staff can combine them (usually we prefer to keep the most used keyword)." Although the keyword guidelines allow an option for reporting duplicate keywords using the contact form, I believe the preferable approach is to have a public discussion on this message board, so that everyone can be aware of and participate in the decision-making on any keyword mergers.

Since my original post, @bradley_kent has cleaned up some of these keywords through manual editing. I appreciate his valiant efforts to tackle these keywords, but even with his cleanup, the inherent problems with these keywords will persist and the keywords will continue to be intrinsically birfucated unless they are set up for permanent auto-conversion in the future. In other words, the recent cleanup of these keywords is only temporary.

Can the above-listed keywords please be permanently merged and auto-converted? Thank you in advance.

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Hi keyword_expert -

Just following up here to confirm that the keyword merges and mapping have now been completed.

Thanks again!

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Hi keyword_expert -

Thanks for these Keyword merge/auto-mapping suggestions, our staff are currently reviewing and working on merging them, once completed I will update you with the status here.

Cheers!

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Thank you, @Michelle.   

And thanks again to @bradley_kent for his ongoing work in manually editing many of these keywords. His ability to slice through thousands of keyword revisions at a time, like a knife through butter, is unparalleled.

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@Michelle @bradley_kent 

I just did some checking and tests on these keywords, and I noted some substantial changes for the better. I can't tell whether the changes were done by Mr. Kent or by IMDb staff, or some combination thereof. But substantial progress is already being made, which I do truly appreciate. 

Here is what I have observed:

1. Most (the vast majority) of the individual keywords have been moved over in the directions of the arrows in my list. This is great to see! We are talking about more than 3,000 individual keyword entries, so this is a massive shift to improve the functionality of keyword searches on IMDb. Bravo!

2. As far as I can tell, only a single entry on my list was not changed ("psychotic-killer" and "psychopathic-killer," both of which I had recommended should be merged into "psycho-killer"). I cannot tell whether this proposed fix was declined or just overlooked.

3. As far as I can tell, the keywords are not (yet?) set up for future autoconversions. For example, when a contributor tries to add the plural keyword "environmental-issues" to a title, that keyword will be accepted, instead of automatically converting to the singular keyword "environmental-issue." I tested this and was able to add "environmental-issues" to a title.

4. I did note one typo in these mass mergers. The keyword japanese-school-girl was merged into the new keyword 'japanese-schoolgirl, instead of japanese-schoolgirlPlease note the apostrophe at the beginning of that new keyword; that was a typo. 

Mr. Kent, if these mergers were done by you, I am once again impressed with how you manage to edit such large numbers of keywords in short order. You make it look easy! It would have taken me many days, possibly weeks, to make all these changes through manual editing. If this was you, and if you are willing, at some point I sincerely hope you will divulge your editing methods to the community, so that other contributors can replicate them with their own keyword cleaning. Please do not mistake my sentiments as sarcasm; I am genuinely in awe of your work. 

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@Michelle @bradley_kent 

After some further thought, I believe I was wrong to recommend that both 

"psychotic-killer" and "psychopathic-killer" should be merged into "psycho-killer". So it is actually a good thing that this specific proposal of mine did not happen, either because it was overlooked or rejected. 

As it turns out, there are important differences between a psychotic person and a psychopathic person. Psychotic persons have lost touch with reality and may hear things or have visions. Psychopathic persons have no regard for others. As applied to killers (murderers), a psychotic killer might kill because voices in his head are telling him to do so. But a psychopathic killer might kill because he enjoys killing. 

If my proposed keyword merger was rejected on purpose, then kudos to whomever rejected it for spotting the problem! I apologize for not thinking this one through more thoroughly before suggesting it.

I do think I will look more closely at the "psychotic-killer" and "psychotic-murderer" keywords on IMDb. As noted in this article, "the killer is rarely psychotic" but rather is "psychopathic." In some cases where people have used the keywords "psychotic-killer" and "psychotic-murderer" on IMDb, they probably meant psychopathic-killer" and/or "psychopathic-murderer" instead.

But as it turns out, the most famous "psycho-killer" of all cinema history, Norman Bates, was in fact a "psychotic-killer" rather than a "psychopathic-killer." Was Norman Bates a psychopath? - Quora

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Hi keyword_expert -

No worries!  Yes, I left those keywords as-is as each seemed applicable as standalone keywords.

Cheers!

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3 years ago

Hi keyword_Expert,

i have seen but amaze how you have make this automative keyword planner? how IMDb support map all keywords in an organized manner.

Many congrats.

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