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Duplicate Keywords - List #63 (murder keywords) (Proposals for Permanent Merger and Auto-Conversion)

Here is the next installment of my lists of proposed keywords for permanent merger and auto-conversion.

I am posting this list for fellow contributors to review first and raise any objections or questions. I will wait at least 28 days before changing this post to a "problem" post and asking IMDb staff to make the proposed changes.

The mergers and auto-conversions should be made in the direction of the arrows.

Duplicate Keywords Proposed for Permanent Merging and Auto-Conversion

accidental-murder (223 titles)  -->  accidentally-murdering-someone (1 title)  -->   accidental-killing (678 titles)

asking to be murdered (5 titles)  -->   asking someone to murder you (6 titles)  -->  asking-someone-to-kill-you (1 title)  -->   demanding to be killed  (2 titles) -->  character demands to be killed (1 title)  -->  asking to be killed (53 titles) 

characters-killed-off-one-by-one (11 titles)  -->  killed-one-by-one (46 titles)  -->  characters-killed-one-by-one (225 titles)


confession-to-murder (99 titles)  -->  confessing-to-murder (39 titles)  -->  confess-a-murder (3 titles) -->  confesses-to-past-murder (2 titles) -->  murder-confession (242 titles)

dark-murderer (32 titles)  -->  murderers (9 titles)  -->  murderer (1170 titles)

false-confession-to-murder (54 titles)  -->  confessing-to-a-murder-you-didn't-commit (5 titles)  -->   false-murder-confession (13 titles)

human-hunting-a-human (70 titles)  -->  human-hunts-a-human (4 titles)

killed (31 titles)  -->  kills (1 title)  -->  killings (1 title)  -->  killing (1361 titles)


killers (46 titles)  -->  dark-killer (30 titles)  -->   killer (2073 titles) 


mad-killer (60 titles)  -->  insane-murderer (42 titles)  -->  insane-killer (33 titles)  -->   psycho-killer (500 titles)


murder-attempt (439 titles) -->  failed-murder-attempt (27 titles)  -->  attempt-to-murder (64 titles)  --> attempt-to-commit-murder (5 titles)  -->  attempted-murder (2762 titles)

murdering (5 titles)  -->   bizarre-murder (11 titles)  -->   murder (36414 titles)


sadistic-murderer (141 titles)  -->  sadistic-killer (102 titles) 

slasher-murderer (125 titles)  -->  slasher-killer (306 titles)

wrongfully-accused-of-murder (15 titles)  -->  wrongful-accusation-of-murder (5 titles)  -->  false-accusation-of-murder (372 titles)

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Related post:

Duplicate Keywords - List #55 (death keywords) (Proposals for Permanent Merger and Auto-Conversion)

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2 years ago

I'm so glad you're working on getting these merged. These are clear duplicates.

I would prefer sadistic killer over sadistic murderer, since murder is a legal term. In a fictional world without laws, murderer seems less apt than killer.

All the other merges look very good to me.

BTW, do you know what dark killer is even supposed to mean? What's the difference between a killer and a dark killer?

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@jay_spirit​ 

I would prefer sadistic killer over sadistic murderer, since murder is a legal term. In a fictional world without laws, murderer seems less apt than killer.

Thanks for the suggestion. I made that change.

BTW, do you know what dark killer is even supposed to mean? What's the difference between a killer and a dark killer?

I have no idea, either.  It could mean a psycho killer, a mysterious killer, or a killer who is a shadowy figure (shrouded in darkness). Since it's at best unclear, the keyword should be merged into "killer."

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Indeed murder is largely a legal construct. In the most abstract meaning, a murder is an intentional/willful homicide lacking a legal excuse for it to have been committed. However, even this definition can break down or rather be subject to expansion, because of statutes addressing the consequences of (1) a person intentionally harming another person but without the expectation of the injuries resulting in death, or (2) a person threatening to start a "mechanism" of potentially lethal injury but unintentionally engaging the "mechanism" (e.g. dangling somebody from a very high place and threatening to let go without intend to actually let go, or likewise aiming a lethal projectile shooter but unintentionally squeezing the trigger). Also, there is the "felony murder" rule in some jurisdictions, which is like a variation or expansion of prohibiting conspiracy to commit murder. The idea behind the felony murder rule is that a criminal liability is enhanced in when the root cause of an intentional homicide (be it in violation or be it in self-defense) was a highly-felonious behavior that is itself not necessarily homicide, and this extends to accomplices to that root cause. For example, all accomplices to a bank robbery may be charged with a special degree of murder if anybody (including one of the accomplices) winds up being killed (injured to the point of death) by somebody (perhaps a guard or a protective samaritan) immediately caught up in the situation.

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I wonder how much work would it be to audit the "dark-killer" keyword and change some instances to "killer-wearing-dark-clothing" (or "killer-wearing-dark-warpaint") and others to "sadistic-killer" (or "gothic-killer"). In the meantime, I'm just as curious about the meaning as you two are. We could take silhouettes (or other shadowy figures) into consideration too.

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@jeorj_euler​ 

Just a hunch, but I suspect those "dark" keywords have nothing to do with what the killer is wearing, and much more with the killer's mindset.

Note that 25 of the 32 titles with "dark-murderer," and 20 of the 30 titles with "dark-killer," also have the keyword "psychopath."

Plus, after Jay asked about the "dark" keywords, I noticed these keywords:

dark-hero (484 titles)
dark-heroine (138 titles)

At this point it seems pretty obvious to me that the "dark-murderer" and "dark-killer" keywords were one contributor's lazy and ill-conceived attempt to start up a new keyword modeled after the "-hero" keywords, without realizing that "dark-murderer" just does not have the same ring to it as "dark-hero," makes a lot less sense on its face, and invites a lot of confusion as to its meaning. 

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Ah, haha. I see. In that sense, "dark" as an adjective belong with a noun ordinarily seen as good, righteous, positive, helpful, protective or neutral.

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@jeorj_euler​ Yes, and that is why people intuitively understand "dark-hero" but not "dark-murderer." 

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2 years ago

I have added a couple more sets of keywords to the list:

human-hunting-a-human (70 titles)  -->  human-hunts-a-human (4 titles)

killed (31 titles)  -->  kills (1 title)  -->  killings (1 title)  -->  killing (1361 titles)

I would also like to eventually do something about the keywords most-dangerous-game (133 titles) and the-most-dangerous-game (3 titles), since most of the instances of these keywords could probably be merged into human-hunts-a-human (4 titles) as well.

However, some titles with most-dangerous-game are probably better manually merged into "alien-hunts-a-human" instead. This will require careful "auditing" of the titles. If it's not possible to merge all these keywords into human-hunts-a-human, then the safer bet would be merging into human-hunted-down-for-sport (12 titles) or even better, hunting-humans (17 titles) or human-prey (132 titles). 

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2 years ago

Interesting Trivia:

Among non-Adult titles, the keyword "murder" is currently in the top 10 most popular keywords on IMDb. "Murder" is also the single most popular "substantive" keyword (i.e., the most popular keyword involving the plot).

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Not to delve to far into philosophy, sociology, psychology or theology, but one of the worsts things a civilized person can do to a civilized community (even a gigantic one) is deprive it of one of its members, so it may not be a surprise that storytellers, novelists, screenwriters, journalists, scholars, documentarians and filmmakers like to incorporate such a topic into their works. Naturally there are also countless film adaptations of the stories from the books of the Torah, Quran and New Testament, like the famous tale of that guy who murdered his own brother and did not even feel a drop of remorse about it. To top it to off, far too many of the murders that have ever been recorded in public history have been a bit petty if not senseless.

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I have added another set of keywords for proposed merger to the list:

asking to be murdered (5 titles)  -->   asking someone to murder you (6 titles)  -->  asking-someone-to-kill-you (1 title)  -->   demanding to be killed  (2 titles) -->  character demands to be killed (1 title)  -->  asking to be killed (53 titles) 

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@keyword_expert​ 

I'm on board with that.

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2 years ago

IMDb staff:

Now that the comment period on this list of keywords has passed, the list is ready for action. I will copy and paste the list below with the numbers of titles removed to facilitate the mergers and auto-conversions.

Duplicate Keywords Proposed for Permanent Merging and Auto-Conversion

accidental-murder   -->  accidentally-murdering-someone   -->   accidental-killing 

asking to be murdered  -->   asking someone to murder you   -->  asking-someone-to-kill-you   -->   demanding to be killed   -->  character demands to be killed   -->  asking to be killed 

characters-killed-off-one-by-one   -->  killed-one-by-one   -->  characters-killed-one-by-one 


confession-to-murder  -->  confessing-to-murder  -->  confess-a-murder  -->  confesses-to-past-murder  -->  murder-confession 

dark-murderer   -->  murderers  -->  murderer 

false-confession-to-murder  -->  confessing-to-a-murder-you-didn't-commit  -->   false-murder-confession 

human-hunting-a-human   -->  human-hunts-a-human 

killed   -->  kills   -->  killings  -->  killing 


killers  -->  dark-killer  -->   killer 


mad-killer   -->  insane-murderer  -->  insane-killer  -->   psycho-killer 


murder-attempt  -->  failed-murder-attempt   -->  attempt-to-murder   --> attempt-to-commit-murder   -->  attempted-murder 

murdering   -->   bizarre-murder   -->   murder 


sadistic-murderer   -->  sadistic-killer 

slasher-murderer   -->  slasher-killer

wrongfully-accused-of-murder   -->  wrongful-accusation-of-murder   -->  false-accusation-of-murder 

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Hi @keyword_expert -

We sincerely apologize for the delayed response in circling back to this older keyword proposal request.
We regret that we are unable to take the requested keyword actions raised in this thread and will be marking this as Closed. For more information please review our recent and more detailed response on this previous thread.

Again, while we truly appreciate the requests, we are sorry we cannot assist further.