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Duplicate Keywords - List #42 (Proposals for Permanent Merger and Auto-Conversion) ("based-on-" keywords)

Here is the next installment of my lists of proposed keywords for permanent merger and auto-conversion.

I am posting this for fellow contributors to review first and raise any objections or questions. I will wait at least 14 days before changing this post to a "problem" post and asking IMDb staff to make the proposed changes.

The mergers and auto-conversions should be made in the direction of the arrows.

Duplicate Keywords Proposed for Permanent Merging and Auto-Conversion

adapted-from-a-novel (30 titles)  -->  adaptation-of-novel (16 titles)  -->   based-on-novel (33340 titles)

adapted-from-short-novel (6 titles)  -->  based-on-novelette (5 titles)  -->  based-on-novella (158 titles)

based-on-a-legend (8 titles)  -->  based-on-legend (124 titles)


based-on-a-play (45 titles)  -->  based-on-play (15264 titles)

based-on-a-short-story (10 titles)  -->  short-story-adaptation (2 titles)  --> adapted-from-short-story (2 titles)  -->  based-on-short-story (2187 titles)


based-on-fact (59 titles)  -->  fiction-based-on-facts (9 titles)  -->   based-in-real-life (8 titles)  -->   based-on-true-story (7666 titles)


based-on-movie (102 titles)  -->  based-on-film (1340 titles)  


based-on-folktale (85 titles)  -->  based-on-folk-tale (38 titles)

based-on-literary (15 titles)  -->  based-on-novel-or-book (18 titles)  -->  literary-adaptation (117 titles) -->  literature-on-screen (2501 titles)

inspired-by-true-events (294 titles)  -->   inspired-by-real-events (29 titles)  -->   inspired-by-actual-events (14 titles)  -->  inspired-by-a-true-incident (2 titles)  -->  loosely-based-on-a-true-story (149 titles)  -->  inspired-by-a-true-story (27 titles)

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2 years ago

based-on-film (1340 titles) --> based-on-movie (102 titles)

based-on-film is a predefined and preferred keyword by IMDb on submission form:

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@mbmb​ Thank you. I will flip the order of the merger.

I have to admit I have never seen this "Source Material" menu as displayed in your screenshot. Can you walk me through the steps of how you got there?

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@keyword_expert​ From what I can tell, it only appears with "in-development" titles, which requires IMDb Pro.

You can see it by trying to add a new in-development title.

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Such a drop-down would validate keyword variants that are created by manual input, especially those that inadvertently insert an article word (e.g. "a") or a dash symbol, pluralize (when the keyword should be singular) or spell differently (American versus British).

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@keyword_expert  Shouldn't the following keywords be merged into based-on-story, which is the preferred keyword?

based-on-fairy-tale (227 titles)

based-on-folktale (85 titles)

based-on-folk-tale (38 titles)

based-on-chinese-folk-tale (3 titles)

based-on-finnish-folk-tale (1 title)

based-on-tales-horror (1 title)

based-on-urban-legend (496 titles)

based-on-urban-legends (1 title)

based-on-legend (124 titles)

based-on-a-legend (8 titles)

based-on-fable (3 titles)

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@rootsmusic​ No, because these are not duplicate keywords. Mass mergers should be limited to duplicate keywords, with only a few rare exceptions. 

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@keyword_expert​ Hi!

Auto-converted and merged.

Cheers!

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@Bethanny​ Thank you!

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2 years ago

If you want to include keywords that begin with "inspired-by", then you should include similar keywords like "loosely-based-on".  I'm not a fan of keywords using short-novel/novelette/novella, because I think that it's difficult to set page limits between a short-story and a novel.  Frankly, I also don't like compound keywords that can be broken up into multiple keywords (e.g. based-on-young-adult-novel should break up into based-on-novel and young-adult-novel).

I suggest:

based-on-bestselling-book-series (5 titles) --> based-on-book-series (43 titles)

based-on-series-of-novels (9 titles) --> based-on-novels (111 titles)

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@rootsmusic​ 

A novel and a book are not the same thing. A book can have many different forms, one of which is a novel. Other types include biographies, anthologies, memoirs, and self-help books. Given that "novel" and "book" are not the same thing, keywords with these words are not duplicates and should not be merged into each other.

I would also not recommend adding "young-adult-novel" to a title based on a young adult novel. The keyword "young-adult-novel" should be reserved for titles where a young adult novel is a plot element. A good example is the title Young Adult (2011). In fact, I have just added "young-adult-novel" to that title. 

You do raise a good point about "inspired-by-." Seems like several of the "inspired-by-actual-events" type keywords should be merged into "loosely-based-on-a-true-story." I will adjust the list accordingly:

inspired-by-true-events (294 titles)  -->   inspired-by-real-events (29 titles)  -->   inspired-by-actual-events (14 titles)  -->  inspired-by-a-true-incident (2 titles)  -->  loosely-based-on-a-true-story (149 titles)

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Ok, I agree that "book" is a nondescript keyword about the contents.  But I interpret keywords using "literary" as referring to classics and not to novels.  So those keywords shouldn't be merged with based-on-novel-or-book.

P.S. I suggest adding loosely-based-on-historical-events (43 titles) and inspired-by-a-historical-event (3 titles) .

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@rootsmusic

When in doubt, I consult the dictionary. Here, words like "literary" and "literature" usually refer to classics, but technically they could refer to pretty much anything published in written form. 

lit·er·ar·y 
1. pertaining to or of the nature of books and writings, esp. those classed as literature: literary history.

lit·er·a·ture 
1. writings in which expression and form, in connection with ideas of permanent and universal interest, are characteristic or essential features, as poetry, novels, history, biography, and essays.
2. the entire body of writings of a specific language, period, people, etc.: the literature of England.
3. the writings dealing with a particular subject: the literature of ornithology.

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Descriptions like inspired by are sometimes written on screen, in which case I think it makes sense to use that form in a keyword.

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Peter wrote:

Descriptions like inspired by are sometimes written on screen, in which case I think it makes sense to use that form in a keyword.

@keyword_expert, I agree with Peter that this idea's direction of the arrows should be merging unpopular keywords into ever more popular ones.  I've also edited my original comment to separate books from novels in my keywords under "I suggest:"

P.S. I think fiction-based-on-facts is explicitly fictionalized, but based-on-fact isn't describing fiction.

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I think fiction-based-on-facts is explicitly fictionalized, but based-on-fact isn't describing fiction.  based-on-true-story is a keyword for a plot element.  So it should be merged with the following keywords:

true-life (13 titles)

true-life-adventure (45 titles)

real-incident (4 titles)

real-life-incident (3 titles)

true-event (15 titles)

true-events (17 titles)

true-stories (6 titles)

real-stories (8 titles)

true-life-story (3 titles)

real-life-story (8 titles)

historical-event (766 titles)

based-on-true-story (7666 titles)

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 @Bethanny

Now that the 14-day comment period on this keyword list has ended, I have converted this post to a "problem" post, and it is ready for action by IMDb staff. I will copy and paste the list below with the numbers of titles removed to facilitate the mass mergers and auto-conversions.

Duplicate Keywords Proposed for Permanent Merging and Auto-Conversion

adapted-from-a-novel   -->  adaptation-of-novel  -->   based-on-novel 

adapted-from-short-novel   -->  based-on-novelette   -->  based-on-novella 

based-on-a-legend   -->  based-on-legend 


based-on-a-play  -->  based-on-play 

based-on-a-short-story  -->  short-story-adaptation   --> adapted-from-short-story  -->  based-on-short-story 


based-on-fact   -->  fiction-based-on-facts  -->   based-in-real-life  -->   based-on-true-story 


based-on-movie  -->  based-on-film 


based-on-folktale  -->  based-on-folk-tale 

based-on-literary   -->  based-on-novel-or-book   -->  literary-adaptation  -->  literature-on-screen 

inspired-by-true-events   -->   inspired-by-real-events  -->   inspired-by-actual-events   -->  inspired-by-a-true-incident   -->  loosely-based-on-a-true-story  -->  inspired-by-a-true-story 

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Still can’t help but think that the "based-on-," "impaired-by-," etc. keywords should be listed AS THEY APPEAR IN ON-SCREEN CREDITS, even if there may only be slight differences. The producers must have had their reasons, probably legal and contractual.

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You may well need to prepare for a future lawsuit.

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@bradley_kent​ If someone has a problem with a title being described as "inspired by" a true story rather than "loosely based on" a true story, they can just delete the keyword.