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Duplicate Keywords - List #4.1 (Proposals for Permanent Merger and Auto-Conversion) (april fool's joke)

Here is the next installment of my lists of proposed keywords for permanent merger and auto-conversion. 

I am posting this for fellow contributors to review first and raise any objections or questions. I will wait at least seven days before changing this post to a "problem" post and asking IMDb staff to make the proposed changes.

The mergers and auto-conversions should be made in the direction of the arrows.

Duplicate Keywords Proposed for Permanent Merging and Auto-Conversion

spring (372 titles) -->  spring-season (5 titles)  -->  spring-the-season (27 titles)

data (95 titles)  -->  datum [new keyword]

duplication (47 titles) --> copy (38 titles) -->  duplicate (102 titles)

movie-fan (164 titles) -->  movie-lover (6 titles)  -->  cinephiles (3 titles) -->  cinephile (47 titles)

confusing (6 titles) -->  mass-confusion (69 titles) -->  confusion (764 titles)

goof-up (3 titles) -->  goof-reel (4 titles)  -->  goofing (12 titles) -->  goof (37 titles)

tricking (8 titles) -->  trickery (417 titles) -->  tricks (46 titles) --> tricked (93 titles)  -->  trick (440 titles)

jokes (111 titles)  -->  joke (1808 titles)

bad-joke (112 titles)  -->  bad-jokes (7 titles)

titles (1 title) -->  title (35 titles)

car-keys (208 titles)  -->  car-key (45 titles) 

words (16 titles) -->  word (414 titles) 

expertise (24 titles) -->  experts (5 titles)  -->  expert (674 titles)

self-reference (1 title) -->  self-referencing-movie (1 title) -->  self-referential (378 titles)

meta-humor (125 titles) -->  self-referential-humor (12 titles)

character-says-this-is-not-a-joke (1 title)   -->  character-says-it's-all-a-joke (1 title)

april-fools-day-hoax (2 titles) -->  april-fools-day-prank (8 titles)  -->  april-fools-day-joke (5 titles) -->  april-fool's-day-special (1 title) 

posted (1 title)  -->  posting (3 titles) -->  post (86 titles)  

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3 years ago

Don't know how you can merge "character-says-" IF it is an actual quote of what a character says?  If only one word is different in the quote, that makes it a different quote.  

Still think that all "character-says-" keywords should be deleted.  This sort of info belongs in "Quotes."  Again, more duplication.

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3 years ago

I don't think there's any complaint about converting plurals (jokes), as they're really only appropriate when you're dealing with something that always comes in multiples (binoculars, trousers, eyeglasses, handcuffs, twins); I think you got the bad-jokes conversion backward, though.

I think 'cinephilia' (84 titles) is a better choice than those you suggested. And 'self-referential' seems OK.

I'd be VERY cautious about converting 'spring' automatically, as there are a variety of related terms with different meanings (water-spring, hot-spring, coil-spring, etc.); I have long hoped that the submission system would provide various options for vague keywords.

I agree with the earlier response about 'character-says' keywords; there's a quote search option, and the usage here results in a host of ridiculously specific keywords.

As for 'tricking', 'deception' is probably a good alternative in many cases (it seems the less benign 'deceit' has largely vanished for some reason).

Vague keywords like 'word' are always a problem, as they lend themselves to rampant overuse. After all, almost every title has words; something more precise is advisable. Same goes for 'title'. (I could go off on the topic of writing credits with the attribute (words), but that's another issue.)

I don't have a problem with 'data', as the singular 'datum' is rarely used.

Each of the 'goof'-related keywords seems an awkward substitute for something more self-explanatory; are we talking about bloopers, filmmaking mistakes, or errors by characters?

The more basic 'april-fool's-day' seems reasonable enough to me, since it seems to already imply some sort of prank or joke, but I suppose adding '-prank' wouldn't be a big deal.

A few of the others ('duplication', 'post') also fall into the category of vague keywords with potentially multiple meanings.

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@bradley_kent @gary_krause_dsb3tl1xamjcb 

Thank you for weighing in on this extremely important list of duplicate keywords on this important day. 

Just so you know, I developed the list based on the keywords of this title:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047358/reference/

Edit: The full film from where these keywords were obtained is highly recommended and can be viewed here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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I believe this would apply:

joke-going-over-everyone's-head

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@Peter_pbn​ Shouldn't that be merged with don't-get-the-joke?

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3 years ago

Bump.

Just a few more hours to comment on this incredibly important keyword list!

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3 years ago

Hi keyword_expert -

I have applied all the Keyword merges and auto-conversions except for a few of the following, as I wanted some additional clarity on the requests -

character-says-this-is-not-a-joke (1 title)   -->  character-says-it's-all-a-joke (1 title)

It seems these are two separate phrases, one saying "this is not a joke" and the other saying "it's all a joke".  Since they have separate meanings I have now not merged these, however, let me know if you have additional thoughts.

april-fools-day-hoax (2 titles) -->  april-fools-day-prank (8 titles)  -->  april-fools-day-joke (5 titles) -->  april-fool's-day-special (1 title) 

I can see the purpose of merging the first three, however, I'm not certain that they should be merged into "april-fool's-day-special" as "special" doesn't seem to be the same as a hoax/prank/joke.  If you have additional thoughts on this one let me know!

Cheers!

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If this is, in fact, an April Fools' Day joke, it is a blatant abuse of the Data Issues & Policy Discussions page, and the IMDb staff should take appropriate action in response to the original poster.

I take everything that i post here as serious, and I respond and participate in kind.  This is not a place fpr jokes, but for serous-minded people who, like me, work to help make IMDb as factual and truthful as possible.  No kidding!

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2 years ago

Thank you to IMDb staff for undoing the requested mergers. I have now finished cleaning up these keywords and restored them as close as possible to their original state.

This thread can now be marked as solved and closed. Thanks again.

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Hi @keyword_expert -

We sincerely apologize for the delayed response in circling back to this older keyword proposal request.


We regret that we are unable to take the requested keyword actions raised in this thread and will be marking this as Closed. For more information please review our recent and more detailed response on this previous thread. Again, while we truly appreciate the requests, we are sorry we cannot assist further.

Thanks!