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Tuesday, March 28th, 2017 7:32 AM

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Does anyone know when Genderqueer, Transgender, or Other will be an option for the gender field on a profile?

The only options currently are "male" or "female" and one of my actors doesn't identify as either. But I can't list them without selecting a gender. Anyone know when IMDb is going to fix this?

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Will

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8 years ago

Hi Danny,

Unfortunately at present there is only the "male" and female" options. I'm converting this message to an "Idea" though which will allow other users the opportunity to vote on your suggestion.

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danny_exmqc6k5na7ns

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Is it possible to support minority requests if doesn't benefit the majority?

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6 years ago

declan_a3iag91kt3wn1

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8 years ago

how do we vote?

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Peter_pbn

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You should see a "Vote" button next to or under your first post.

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8 years ago

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martin_sagadin

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6 years ago

This issue was raised 2 years ago and still no progress has been made as far as I can tell. 

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Peter_pbn

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6 years ago

This could also be addressed by not referring to male/female, but only to a choice between actor/actress.

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danny_exmqc6k5na7ns

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Agreed.

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6 years ago

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Vincent_Fournols

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I do not think it would sufficient, since a topic was raised here some months back by a person refusing to be shown as a male nor as a female...

In any case, only 4 votes in 2 years, as pointed out by Ed, is a very low support among the dozens (hundreds?) of ideas or requests brought here, and without any implementation anyway...

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6 years ago

jay_spirit

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6 years ago

I'd advise the staff to look up the term "Get woke, go broke" before deciding to act on this suggestion.

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danny_exmqc6k5na7ns

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Or maybe get your shit together and remain relevant. 

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6 years ago

jay_spirit

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IMDb can stay relevant by saying "no" to a tiny, loud, unpopular minority of ideologues.

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6 years ago

c_park_7242399

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5 years ago

Have there been any updates to this?

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c_park_7242399

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5 years ago

Even simply updating the display of where it says "Actor/Actress" to always using "Actor" for everyone would be helpful.  This would make that section of the filmography consistent with the rest of the job descriptors. It is the only role that uses a gendered term, but the term "actor" is now widely accepted to encompass anyone who is acting (in the same way that producer and writer are gender neutral). 

The other changes would require programming modifications (changing automatic pronouns in the bio, etc), but those display issues can currently be overridden by writing a personalized bio.

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c_park_7242399

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Ed, please do not react with such emotion. I was just offering a possible solution that would not require changes to the underlying data structures. Most of the solutions people have proposed would likely require a huge change to the structure of IMDb and would thus be quite expensive. A display change is a much cheaper option and would bring that category in line with the other film roles listed in IMDb that are not gender specific.

Many jobs have moved to using the gender neutral terminology (police officer instead of policeman and policewoman, fire fighter instead of fireman and firewoman, waiter instead of waiter and waitress, etc). Likewise, the term actor is now widely used to include everyone who acts regardless of gender.

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adrian

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No, Ed, you aren't point out the absurdity of the statement. You are showing that you don't understand the science. Gender is a social construct and has never been binary. Also, sex and gender are too different things.

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5 years ago

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It was not an assumption, Ed. it is apparent from your post that you are wilfully misunderstanding things. First, I have to wonder, why do you care? It doesn't affect your life in any way but is important to people that are different from you.

Science is neither liberal nor conservative. The fact you think so points to my initial assertion. You don't keep up with science. There is no redefinition. There has literally never been two genders. (What gender is a person who has both male and female reproductive organs?) 

Gender has always been a social construct. Ancient Jews, hardly your liberal academia, recognized 6 genders. https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/37225?lang=bi

And, when you resort to attacking typos, you know you have no argument.

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jeorj_euler

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Gender is a linguistic construct: "masculine", "feminine" and "neuter". While "masculine" is associated with males, "feminine" associated with females, special or named inanimate objects (which have no sex) may be referred to by the feminine pronoun or the neuter pronoun ("it"). Referring to human beings by the neuter pronoun after they have been born is impolite, but the unborn and non-human animals (regardless of belonging to a heterosexually-reproductive species) are frequently referred to by such a pronoun, even when doing so may be logically inappropriate. There are two sexes: male and female. No known lifeform has more than two. A given organism could belong to both sexes or just one of them. All members of asexually-reproductive species are female by definition. A sentient automaton is something that (or "somebody" who) may belong to neither sex, since sex may not be defined, and may not make sense, for its model. Quite possibly, it may never make sense for such a being to be definable as male or female.

— Jeorj Euler, an IMDb regular registrant

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jeorj_euler

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Hi, ACT_1. What is your point? We all know that neither "hermaphrodite" nor "intersex" is a sex in and of itself. The organisms that full under either classification may be said to belong to both sexes or be of ambiguous sex.

— Jeorj Euler, an IMDb regular registrant

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bulmapunkrocker

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Sometimes it's very useful to separate people by sex, like actor/actress, in example, in Korea many people share the exact same name, both family and given name, and the only way to tell them apart is by their sex, and if the info it's available, their birth date (yes, men and women sometimes share the same name in Korea).
As far as I understand, trans artists can choose the sex they identify with, it doesn't matter if it's not their biological sex, no one is gonna ask about those personal questions.

If a performing artist doesn't want to be asociated with neither sex, what do the LGBT community propose as an alternative to actor/actress, without removing the already existing categories, but adding a new one?

Excuse my ignorance and my poor English, not my native language.

Cheers!

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gloaming_wang

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I had submitted this inquiry earlier, and was told to come here "where our staff and other IMDb users can vote on it."

I shouldn't have to tell anyone at IMDB that not misgendering people oughtn't be a thing you need to vote on. You're either misgendering people on purpose or you're not. This is not a feature request. This is a requirement being put forward to remove discrimination from the status quo of the website. There is no need to faff about and hem and haw about it. IMDB, please just do it so you're not being transphobic.

If you require discrimination against minority identities to be put up to a popular vote and have overwhelming feedback to be "significant" on whether we should keep being discriminated against or not, and you're letting this thread sit unresolved for 3 years, then you need to review your company policies.

Thanks,
Gloaming

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adrian

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This is a feature request, unfortunately. There is a lot of work that would have to go in to change the way things work for gender on IMDb. It is not a simple of easy fix and there are a lot of assumptions made in the interface. (For example, if a person has credits as a crew member before becoming a cast member, it will assume they are male unless you specifically change the gender.)

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