Doctor Who listed incorrectly

@Ozzy​ hey, that’s great news! The only thing I noticed that I think needs to be changed is that the 2023 specials that released on Disney+ should actually be considered part of the new show, especially the Christmas Special, “The Church on Ruby Road”.

The BBC distinguishes the shows on their websites as “Doctor Who (2005-2022)” and “Doctor Who (2023-)”.

Thanks so much for your work on this!

@Ozzy - surely the parent series page should be "Doctor Who (2023-)" to match what the BBC have released?

If you go their series page at https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p0gglvqn/doctor-who-2023 it clearly states "2023" as the starting point. The 4 episodes already aired under this should become specials.

Hi all,

Thank you for your above feedback on the new parent series page listing for Doctor Who.

We have now made the appropriate changes to the episode listing for Doctor Who (2023-) to match the BBC's current listing. We will continue to monitor how this series and its episodes will be marketed up until and upon the release of the new season in May.

I hope this helps!

@Ozzy​ that’s great to see! Thanks again for taking all of the feedback on this!

@Ozzy​ 

while Russell T Davies and BBC are referring to the Series as “Season 1” this is purely for marketing reasons and mostly to do with Disney +. It is still technically Series 14, at no point as it been said that Series 13 was the last series of Doctor Who and and no point has it been said one series has ended and another has started. Therefore it seems odd to list to start a new listing. This also goes for having things like “The Night of the Doctor” having its own page when it’s part of the series and a mini episode. Is it possible to review the decision to create a separate page? 

@Jamo26​ technicality or not, the BBC and Russell T Davis have clearly decided that this will be classed as a new show, and given the rumours that these new episodes are going to be more fantasy than science-fiction, then I for one am of the opinion that it's a good move.

@Jamo26​ absolutely not. The BBC has definitively separated it as a “new” show, just as they did when they started Doctor Who (2005-2022) as Series 1. We don’t call that show Season 27-39 of Doctor Who (1963-).

We have Seasons 1-26 of Doctor Who (1963-1989), Series 1-13 of Doctor Who (2005-2022), and now Season 1 and beyond of Doctor Who (2023-).

@MitchellK​ Just out of curiosity, why do you feel it is (so) important how the BBC feels about this? IMDb is not owned by the BBC so IMDb can list it however they want and you are allowed to have your own idea about whether or not something is a new series or a continuation of an already existing series, regardless of how the BBC or IMDb feels about it.

I personally have never seen anything regarding Doctor Who, so I can't say anything definitive about this, but in general, I find a significant gap in time a good (potential) reason to consider something a new series. So in the case of Doctor Who (1963-1989) and Doctor Who (2005-2022), it doesn't come across as strange to me that they are listed as two series. Obviously, the gap in time can't be the reason to consider this new season a new show, so it must be something else. IIUC, there have been several actors who have portrayed the Doctor and that never seems to have been a reason for anybody to consider a new season a new show, so that can't be it either.

As I've said earlier in this thread, there might be a very good reason, or even several good reasons, to consider the new season a new show. But up until now, the only reason I've seen in this thread (and yes, I know IMDb uses this argument as well) is "some people who happen to work on this show say so". Not really the best argument ever I would say, especially if those people who work on this show don't care to explain why they feel the way they do.

@MitchellK​ It isn’t a separate show though. BTS image of a script as “Series 14” on it. When Matt Smith took over in 2010, the BBC also tried to market Series 5 as Season 1. It’s purely a marketing tactic to attract new viewers. 

If anything Doctor Who should be listed as one title that encompasses all episodes from 1963 to now and labelled as Season 1 (1963-64) to Season 40 (2023).