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Different seasons of the same TV Series 'Svaty' have seperate entries on IMDb, but not able to merge into 1 entry
There's a tv series, which has a seperate season as a new IMDb entry, while in fact it should be just 1 entry with a list of seasons. I've submitted request to merge these intries into the "Svaty" entry (for season 1), but it's been more than a month and it still hasn't been approved (or got denied). Please help (links to seasons and to my submissions to merge into 1 are below)
Svaty (main entry to which all seasons should be merged into): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1820225/ (season 1)
Svati (duplicate entry) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4757588/ (season 1)
* submission #
Svaty 2: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1860046/ (season 2)
* submission # 190728-013310-702000
Svaty 3: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1867358/ (season 3)
* submission # 190728-013341-754000
Svaty 4: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1870201/ (season 4)
* submission # 190728-013408-373000
Svaty 5: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2860316/ (season 5)
* submission # 190728-013439-670000
Svaty 6: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2926386/ (season 6)
* submission # 190728-013439-670000
Novogodnie svaty (2011) (TV): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1860046/ (New Year Special)
* submission # 190728-013236-816000
Any help would be appreciated!
Svaty (main entry to which all seasons should be merged into): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1820225/ (season 1)
Svati (duplicate entry) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4757588/ (season 1)
* submission #
Svaty 2: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1860046/ (season 2)
* submission # 190728-013310-702000
Svaty 3: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1867358/ (season 3)
* submission # 190728-013341-754000
Svaty 4: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1870201/ (season 4)
* submission # 190728-013408-373000
Svaty 5: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2860316/ (season 5)
* submission # 190728-013439-670000
Svaty 6: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2926386/ (season 6)
* submission # 190728-013439-670000
Novogodnie svaty (2011) (TV): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1860046/ (New Year Special)
* submission # 190728-013236-816000
Any help would be appreciated!



MAthePA
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is not duplicate, this is separate series produced in Russia starting in 2014 as mentioned correct on the title page. The original title is "Сватьи" or its alternate name "Свахи", not "Сваты".
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MAthePA
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can not be merged into Svaty series page. It's a TV movie, no matter keyworded as "TV special" or not.
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MAthePA
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7 years ago
Since this problem is spoken, no matter correct way or not, there is the whole story in few words for the editors' attention:
- Svaty (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1820225/) was initially produced as a TV-movie that technically is mini-series because of split into 2 parts (episodes) when airing;
- Svaty 2 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1860046/) was also produced and released the same way as the initial Svaty, having two episodes;
- Svaty 3 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1867358/) is the very first TV-series in this production, and the first episode was released on the days of "Svaty 2" airing;
- Followed by Svaty 4 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1870201/);
- Followed by Svaty 5 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2860316/);
- Followed by Svaty 6 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2926386/).
The above data should be known for the TS because he seems participating as an editor for Svaty pages at Wikipedia. But for unknown reasons, he keeps trying to frame the IMDb system by the Wiki system, and not vice versa.1
piznajko
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For all other submissions - they are indeed seperate seasons of the same series, and should be merged into one entry. You comments above, unfortunately, don't help clarify anything, and only serve to "confuse" the reader; futhermore, your comment above about the fact that I also edit film-rleated Wikipedia articles does not seem relevant: there's nothing wrong in contributing to both Wikipedia and IMDb
Also, below please find correct data (since MAthePA provided factually incorrect statements above that I assume are done to confuse IMDb editors):
@IMDb admins: please disregard comments from MAthePA above - unfortunately they were not made to clarify things (as the editor clearly does not have any relevant knowledge on this matter). To provide further proof that the 6th seasons (plus New Year special) should be merged into one entry, please see below the quote from teh official website of the production company that created the series. Specifically, below is the comment http://kvartal95.com/en/projects/the-in-laws6/ on the 6th season of the series:
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MykolaYeriomin
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This only happens with series in other corners of the world when format of the series changes, and so does production company, marketing and a few other aspects, like in case of "Twin Peaks" (1990) and "Twin Peaks" (2017), former being regular network TV series and latter being special event network mini-series, although practically it is Season 3.
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Michelle
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For clarity, can you confirm that all separate titles should be merged as seasons of this existing series: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1820225/?
Also, this title: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1820565/ should be listed under Season 6 as it aired as an episode special, is that correct?
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MAthePA
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It is well known that the episodes and series matters are sometimes a question of categorization, so editors solve them individually. That's why I listed the related facts above and left the question of categorization for the editors, and hence the final decision as to merge or not.
But in this particular case, it seems that the way this question was initially up is going to break the official principle:
In some cases TV movies or specials are created with no intention of going to series, however they become so popular that one ends up being commissioned. On these occasions we would prefer to keep the original TV Movie separate, as was originally intended, even if it is subsequently packaged as part of the overall series in future airings and dvd releases.
So it's up to your decision, but if the first released TV-movie that was separate when released and having initially no plans to be continued and the second one (a sequel) would be merged with the rest, then please make changes or additions to the above cited guidelines produced by IMDb staff.
It seems to me that similar cases were solved by means of referential links.
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piznajko
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Yes, please merge all seperate seasons (that currently have seperate entries) into the main entry https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1820225/ . As for the New Year special episode from 2010 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1820565/ it should be listed as a special episode of Season 4, as it was aired during the night of December 31 2009 / January 1 2010 as the last episode of Season 4.
Laslty, I want to point out that there is NO confusion from the production company Kvartal 95, that these are just different seasons for the same series, e.g., on official website of production company Kvartal 95 the seasons are clearly labeled as season with no ambiguity, e.g.,:
* Season 3: "Events of the 3rd season of The In-Laws series take place in a village..." http://kvartal95.com/en/projects/the-in-laws3/
* Season 4: In the fourth season of The In-Laws the events take place in the summer resort..." http://kvartal95.com/en/projects/the-in-laws4/
* Season 6: In the sixth season of the The In-Laws the audience is again in for the incredible amount of most unexpected adventures of favorite characters..." http://kvartal95.com/en/projects/the-in-laws6/
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Joel
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Thanks for your responses and extra info!
I've cut a ticket for our data editors to look into these merges for you, please allow some time for them to work through this.
Thanks,
Joel
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den_budanov
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MAthePA
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where the original title-poster (including no "6" or other numbers) had been before this discussion paused at some point:
EDITORS, please react on this.
Those who did these changes are not familiar with the content.
The changes are done without any objective proof.
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piznajko
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Please stop beating a dead horse! This is a 6 season TV series and no amount of your denialism can change that.
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