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Wed, Jul 13, 2022 1:07 AM

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Crediting artists in music video as themselves or an acting gig.

Hello,

I have added several music videos in the past for some associates of mine. Something that seems to get under the artists skin. Is when someone credits them as actors instead of self.

While it is possible for a musician to play a role that is not himself and perform his music, then it's different. That's a clear acting role.

It is also possible that an artist to have some dialogue with an actor in the music video. What comes to mind first is Ben Stiller having a dialogue with Puff Daddy and Limp Biskit in their music video. Now there is ambiguity.

However if the artist performs his song even in a set up it's a self-credit, in my opinion. For example Madonna -Die another day. She is credited as Madonna playing herself, no it's the real Madonna performing a song. 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6673866/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_13

I took this video because there is acting coming from her, she needs to pretend to be a prisoner. But it is still a Self credit in my opinion. It's not because a song is a performance that it qualifies as acting.

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Il y a 2 m

Hello.

Self credits apply only to non-fiction titles such as documentaries, talk-shows, news etc.

Music videos use a narrative form and performance art, so it's definately acting.

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Il y a 2 m

But what is fiction about performing a song?

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It's a performance! A song is a story, and the singer has to act. In a music video, Madonna is not herself, but a performer who tells a story by singing and dancing. Think of a music video as a short musical film.

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Il y a 2 m

It's a bit like you are asking me to watch music show and expect a play. I have pointed some exception but no it is them performing in a set-up. So many music videos are just about the artists walking around performing no stories.

Here is a classic set up for a music video yes it tells a story. But the singer his song and the actor play out the roles. The singer just plays music. Note I am not related to this singer. But in my opinion he doesn't play the role of himself, he just sings a songs and it intercuts with actors playing it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj4OgWq5OmE

Here you have Miley Cyrus in Wrecking Ball. It's more abstract. And yes the set up with the wrecking ball is there. But she not acting as herself, she performing music and emoting the right emotion for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2FRPA3Gf8

I could go on with examples where you are right but not always.

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Il y a 2 m

I get your point. But it all comes down to fiction and non-fiction. In most cases, music videos are fiction.

Non-fiction music videos can be short documentaries.

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The current rules are rules: Music Video performances are considered ”acting”. If you add them with ”Self”, you’re going against those rules. It’s that simple.