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credit declined with proof of payment for work done

I provided evidence for work on an independent feature 230410-011010-804000.

I submitted a screenshot of 2 payments via PayPal which mentions the feature.

Additionally, I also submitted an email from the director about the feature and payment.

This is the same as a pay-stub in the non-independent world.

Additionally, I submitted a screenshot of another attempt to submit a credit entry for this which was entered by the director's assistant.

Why was this declined?  Can you be specific with your response if you feel that you can't verify this somehow?

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3 years ago

I submitted proof for a credit for 230410-000047-647000 by submitting a contract.

Why was this declined?

Can you be specific with your response if you feel that you can't verify this somehow?​

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled credit declined with proof of contract

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3 years ago

Hi @hkpwnetd -

For the first one in the proof sent you can't see the name of the title anywhere, the name mentioned on the payment does not match the title you were adding it on. Emails are not proof we accept as there is no way to verify the sender.

For 230410-000047-647000 I have resubmitted on your behalf and approved.

Cheers!

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3 years ago

Hi @Bethanny,

Rene (the director and writer) didn't have a working title for the feature at that time so he kept referring to it as the western (I think this is the only western he's ever wrote/directed).  In the case of working titles that don't match the final title or projects like mine where there isn't a designated working title, what would you suggest?

Also, other members of your team do accept emails as proof; I've previously posted the email from you team in this forum.  A lot of times, emails are the only evidence for post production people who don't ever possess the other 5 forms of evidence your team always requests (your policy seems to only fit for production crew, not post).

Also, can you not mark this status as "solved" as it's still being discussed to achieve a solution?

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Hi @Bethanny I'm responding a 2nd time here because you merged my other thread with this one about the decline of contracts as evidence.  

Since they're 2 different matters, I'm don't understand why you merged them.  It's now more difficult for users to search your forum.

Regardless, can you explain why 230410-000047-647000 was originally declined the first time when I provided a contract for evidence (as per your policy)?  I have to ask because this happens an awful lot (my first submission of evidence for a title is immediately declined). Are my account submissions being declined every time right now?  If so, why?  Any insight will help.

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Hi @hkpwnetd -

No, we can't accept emails as proof normally, they might be a reason why we would take one but this is not common for the reason I mentioned. You can ask your colleague to upload the credit himself since he is the director and writer we will definitely not need further proof than that, I saw in his email he did or asked someone to but it did not come from his account or anyone attached to the movie so we could not verify.

Regarding 230410-000047-647000 it was a processing error that's why I resubmitted on your behalf and approved.

Thanks!

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@Bethanny​ , thanks, I'll ask the director to do it directly (as well as send him your response).

Can you explain what a "processing error" is?  I'm asking because of the large number of credits I've had declined multiple times, as well as IMDb wiping out my whole page (my colleagues on the same crews never had this problem, so it's got to be localized to my account).  Is there something on my end I could do to avoid processing errors?  

Thanks for all of your help!  You and Sophie have been the most helpful on your team in regards to actually helping customers instead of simply replying with a canned response.

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Hi @hkpwnetd​ -

By "Processing Error" regarding this recent submission (#230410-000047-647000), I can see that it should have been approved instead of declined, so the error was the handling of your submission on our end.  You correctly supplied verifiable evidence, so I would just encourage you to do the same with future credit additions.

I hope this helps!

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Hi @Michelle, it helps, thank you.

What happened in December 2022 when every credit was removed from my page?  I've inquired about this before, but no one from IMDb Customer Support provided a response.  Would the complete wipe of my page also be due to "processing errors"?

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Hi @hkpwnetd​ -

I can see that there is another thread discussing this particular issue (regarding the removed credits).  I will reply there shortly to address any outstanding questions.

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Thanks @Michelle 

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@Michelle , I'm following up on the December 2022 wipe of my page.  Any idea what happened and how it can be fixed?  (That's an awful lot of work for me to have to repost, 20+ years of credits.)

TIA

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Hi @hkpwnetd​ -

For consistency,  I will follow-up on the other thread and mark this one as closed as not to confuse any investigation efforts.

Cheers!

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Hi @brooksharry, I received an email and IMDb site account notification from you, but it's not visible on this page.  I'll paste it here (screenshot from my email):

Thank you for your response, however your information is a duplicate of your teammates and is not entirely feasible in the real world.
I know that policies of your department change a lot, so I'll repeat a question as you might have a new answer.  If I create invoices for the work I did, will that now suffice?  Your co-workers have previously responded with a maybe, however your response is "it is recommended to provide additional documentation such as invoices, contracts, testimonials, timestamps, and supplementary materials that can strengthen the evidence and enhance its credibility." 
For anyone else trying to follow this (the thread got pretty confusion when someone from IMDb merged another thread to this one), I am the one invoicing my clients.  It's a common (not always smart) practice by my clients to pay me, but not mention on their check or electronic bank transaction exactly what project the payment was for.  But if the dates line up and the amounts match, it seems that IMDb has decided that that's considered "verifiable" (but let's wait for their response for confirmation).
Your response also brings up 2 more queries.
1. What kind of "testimonials" are acceptable?
2. What are "timestamps"?
Also, there doesn't appear to be an active link when I tried to populate your name.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.  This situation has been unresolved for a long time now, and I'm doing my best to help keep IMDb accurate.